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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9416811" data-attributes="member: 93670">That's great but why does so much of the support for that focus exclusively on backstory &amp; completely ignore even attempting to justify it from a CharOp perspective?&nbsp; If the backstory is the only bit of importance then there's no reason to be concerned about the mechanical bit.In t<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9415808" target="_blank">he OP</a> you did ask if anyone is going to be using the new backgrounds &amp; why anyone would use the more restrictive backgrounds, but that's a totally different thing. I'm going to say &quot;citation needed&quot; and ask for a post where you tried to spotlight the importance of both those specific elements before someone else did rather than simply asking why anyone would use them.&nbsp; Going back to post <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416362" target="_blank">87</a> you reference the mechanical details [USER=7034611]@mamba[/USER] tossed out in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416357" target="_blank">85</a>.&nbsp; While indeed you mention a sailor in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416325" target="_blank">80</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416078" target="_blank">33</a> the example you &quot;created&quot; seems to be entirely concerned with story &amp; plot.That's certainly something you could take up with your GM, but you are jumping the tracks... There seems to be significant support with multiple posters explaining how you could use some other more fitting background for it &amp; we were talking about you wanting the mechanical elements of sailor over something else.&nbsp; The justification for that naked CharOp desire should focus on something mechanical rather than this kind of track shifting stormwind invocation.See above, the specific mechanical elements were introduced by another poster before you did so as anything other than &quot;why would anyone&quot;.&nbsp; The answer to why is &quot;because they are not allowed to use the old ones or choose not to for whatever reason&quot;.&nbsp; Given that the only sticking point is the specific mechanical elements&nbsp; all of this talk of story is superfluous support for the fluff &amp; story that nobody is in disagreement over allowing to the point that there have been numerous examples of how you could use a background carrying the +int that appears to have been introduced in post 85 by another poster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9416811, member: 93670"] That's great but why does so much of the support for that focus exclusively on backstory & completely ignore even attempting to justify it from a CharOp perspective? If the backstory is the only bit of importance then there's no reason to be concerned about the mechanical bit. In t[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9415808']he OP[/URL] you did ask if anyone is going to be using the new backgrounds & why anyone would use the more restrictive backgrounds, but that's a totally different thing. I'm going to say "citation needed" and ask for a post where you tried to spotlight the importance of [I]both[/I] those specific elements [I]before[/I] someone else did rather than simply asking why anyone would use them. Going back to post [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416362']87[/URL] you reference the mechanical details [USER=7034611]@mamba[/USER] tossed out in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416357']85[/URL]. While indeed you mention a sailor in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416325']80[/URL] & [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-anyone-going-to-use-the-new-2024-backgrounds.705725/post-9416078']33[/URL] the example you "created" seems to be entirely concerned with story & plot. That's certainly something you could take up with your GM, but you are jumping the tracks... There seems to be significant support with multiple posters explaining how you could use some other more fitting background for it & we were talking about you wanting the mechanical elements of sailor over something else. The justification for that naked CharOp desire should focus on something mechanical rather than this kind of track shifting stormwind invocation. See above, the specific mechanical elements were introduced by another poster before you did so as anything other than "why would anyone". The answer to why is "[I]because they are not allowed to use the old ones or choose not to for whatever reason[/I]". Given that the only sticking point is the specific mechanical elements all of this talk of story is superfluous support for the fluff & story that nobody is in disagreement over allowing to the point that there have been numerous examples of how you could use a background carrying the +int that appears to have been introduced in post 85 by another poster. [/QUOTE]

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