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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9418851" data-attributes="member: 2525">That you're saying that unironically when the thesis of your argument is D&amp;D 2024 is a moneygrab is difficult to swallow.Most of the YouTube clickbaiters who do this about D&amp;D admit that's exactly what they are doing. So I ask again, produce a link to a video on that topic which you think is not doing it for the clicks.Thousands in the world? That's a grain of sand on a beach of opinions about D&amp;D and not meaningful. It's why we use sales numbers and extremely broad surveys, rather than Internet comments. WOTC even said outright one definitive result they got from doing surveys all these years is cranks on the Internet turned out to not be very representative of D&amp;D players. When they started following surveys their sales went way up.Show me who you're persuading with this approach. Serious question, show me whose mind you think you changed by coming into a fan forum to tell fans of something that they're wrong and shouldn't be fans of that thing. You've done it nearly a dozen times now here, so there should be someone if you say &quot;tons&quot; of people are reading your comments.I do think if you advocated for other games you like, you would persuade people. But you don't seem interested in doing that.Then why did you call people lemmings if you didn't mean it and won't apologize for doing it?I've asked you two things you're refused to do which indicate your motives might not be the ones you've stated:1) why are you doing this now and here, given there was 18 months of surveying system and communications direct to WOTC to change their minds and this is a terrible place and time to change WOTC's mind relative to that method, and2) why won't you advocate for the other games you prefer, particularly when directly asked what you like rather than what you dislike, if your interest is in advocating for other games?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 9418851, member: 2525"] That you're saying that unironically when the thesis of your argument is D&D 2024 is a moneygrab is difficult to swallow. Most of the YouTube clickbaiters who do this about D&D admit that's exactly what they are doing. So I ask again, produce a link to a video on that topic which you think is not doing it for the clicks. Thousands in the world? That's a grain of sand on a beach of opinions about D&D and not meaningful. It's why we use sales numbers and extremely broad surveys, rather than Internet comments. WOTC even said outright one definitive result they got from doing surveys all these years is cranks on the Internet turned out to not be very representative of D&D players. When they started following surveys their sales went way up. Show me who you're persuading with this approach. Serious question, show me whose mind you think you changed by coming into a fan forum to tell fans of something that they're wrong and shouldn't be fans of that thing. You've done it nearly a dozen times now here, so there should be someone if you say "tons" of people are reading your comments. I do think if you advocated for other games you like, you would persuade people. But you don't seem interested in doing that. Then why did you call people lemmings if you didn't mean it and won't apologize for doing it? I've asked you two things you're refused to do which indicate your motives might not be the ones you've stated: 1) why are you doing this now and here, given there was 18 months of surveying system and communications direct to WOTC to change their minds and this is a terrible place and time to change WOTC's mind relative to that method, and 2) why won't you advocate for the other games you prefer, particularly when directly asked what you like rather than what you dislike, if your interest is in advocating for other games? [/QUOTE]

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