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<blockquote data-quote="Vaalingrade" data-source="post: 9132152" data-attributes="member: 82524">It ignores the rules as actual characters and creatures have to make saves or have defenses rather than just ignoring effects.&nbsp;If you need to just say the spell doesn't work without save or roll for encounter design, then allowing that spell to exist isn't good.Which would be a plus if the game wasn't preventing story-based encounter design through the 8 encounter day, hour short rests and the legacy concept of random encounters.Only not because solos still don't actually work because you can still just wolfpack them to death with a bunch of no-save effects, thanks to the game never having to learn about action economy because it was using lazy brute force design instead!Who gets to decide what level is 'not too pervasive'?Lack of success is not the same as having to do things you know won't matter to bait out the 3 usages of cheats.Only for the fact that Stunning Fist isn't a spell.Yet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vaalingrade, post: 9132152, member: 82524"] It ignores the rules as actual characters and creatures have to make saves or have defenses rather than just ignoring effects. If you need to just say the spell doesn't work without save or roll for encounter design, then allowing that spell to exist isn't good. Which would be a plus if the game wasn't preventing story-based encounter design through the 8 encounter day, hour short rests and the legacy concept of random encounters. Only not because solos still don't actually work because you can still just wolfpack them to death with a bunch of no-save effects, thanks to the game never having to learn about action economy because it was using lazy brute force design instead! Who gets to decide what level is 'not too pervasive'? Lack of success is not the same as having to do things you know won't matter to bait out the 3 usages of cheats. Only for the fact that Stunning Fist isn't a spell. Yet. [/QUOTE]

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