Is D&D (WotC) flaming out?

[JacktheRabbit]

The boardgame Kill Doctor Lucky is probably Paizo's most innovative product.
Writing good adventures is hardly innovative.
Adventure Paths are hardly innovative.

Nor are they automatically good. Adventure Paths are railroad fests and sorry Dragonlance already did that and did it better.

 

[JeffB]

Nor are they automatically good. Adventure Paths are railroad fests ...

Agreed- I'd like to see the modern "adventure path" (from any and all publishers) go the way of the do-do bird.

 

[ShinHakkaider]

Never Mind...

 

[Haltherrion]

Yeah, I had a similar experience. They aren't making books I really want to buy beyond the core and powers books. They tend to tie them too much to the standard setting or their published settings. Came close to buying the book on demons 'cuz I love the aesthetic of them but the write-up/reviews made it sound like most of the material was on the standard Abyss and other settings. I don't mind some of that because I have no problem retargetting but the books seemed to be mostly on the standard setting with a little bit of re-targettable stuff. So I got some books for my new kindle instead.

 

[tvknight415]

I have something to say. It's better to burn out then to fade away!

I like what you've done with your hair Kurgan!

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

A conspiracy theorist would say, it's to produce a 5E D&D.

No, no. 2011 is the year of the Essentials D&D line. After that we will get additional D&D lines as follows:

Fundamentals
Indispensible
Irrevocable
and finally when WotC gets D&D to become part of the national school curriculum: Obligatory

 

[Diamond Cross]

Yep here's the thing we see:

We want new material please publish it!

New material appears:

They changed it now it sucks!

But you guys wanted new material and new ideas!

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Might as well not.

 

[korjik]

Yep here's the thing we see:

We want new material please publish it!

New material appears:

They changed it now it sucks!

But you guys wanted new material and new ideas!

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Might as well not.

There are quite a few of us who have been saying all along that all we wanted was the old rules fixed. Getting another set of error prone rules that are not well thought out just dosent do anything for me.

 

[Diamond Cross]

Except that if WotC actually did that it wouldn't be satisfactory to many of those people and they'd just find something wrong with those rules as well. No matter what WotC does there will always be a section of an unpleasable fan base.

So again, damned if they do and damned if they don't. Might as well not and do your own thing and forge on ahead.

 

[delericho]

No matter what WotC does there will always be a section of an unpleasable fan base.

There will always be a small section of the fan base who are unpleasable. Those people should, indeed, be ignored.

There is a much larger segment who could be pleased, but whom WotC are not pleasing. Simply ignoring that segment is a bad idea, especially if it's possible to please that group without also alienating the people who are currently pleased with the offering.

Very often, people are critical not because they hate the game but because they love the game and genuinely want to see it improved.