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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 3489245" data-attributes="member: 5143">Maybe you won't play Captain Nitpicker, but a number of DMs I've played with WILL.&nbsp; They don't want their enemies being ambushed.&nbsp; They are proud of their bad guys and want them to win(or at least survive until when THEY want them to die).&nbsp; If the players outsmarted them in a way that they can't think of an answer for, they will be more than willing to use any advantage they can to fix that.&nbsp; Even if it means springing details on the PCs like the streets.&nbsp; They may or may not even be doing it consciously.To me, it's a major concern and the reason I use minis.&nbsp; During my second edition days when we didn't play with minis, we used to argue nearly every session about misunderstood descriptions and changed details from round to round.It was not uncommon for things like:Player 1: &quot;Ok, how far away am I from the enemies?&quot;DM: &quot;30 feet.&quot;Player 1: &quot;Alright, I shoot him with an arrow.&quot;Player 2: &quot;Ok, where am I?&quot;DM: &quot;Right beside Player 1.&quot;Player 2: &quot;I move forward and attack.&quot;DM: &quot;Sorry, you are too far away from the enemy to charge this round.&quot;Player 2: &quot;What?&nbsp; I'm 30 feet away!&quot;DM: &quot;No, you are 50 feet away.&quot;Player 2: &quot;You just told Player 1 that he was 30 feet away, and I'm right beside him, so I should be 30 feet away too!&quot;DM: &quot;No, I told Player 1 he was 50 feet away.&quot;Player 3: &quot;I think the DM is right, I heard 50.&quot;Player 1: &quot;Actually, he did tell me thir...&quot;DM (Interrupting): &quot;I said 50.&nbsp; That's it, can we stop arguing about this?!?!&quot;Repeat this discussion about some stupid detail or another about 100 times and that's the reason why I like to use minis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 3489245, member: 5143"] Maybe you won't play Captain Nitpicker, but a number of DMs I've played with WILL. They don't want their enemies being ambushed. They are proud of their bad guys and want them to win(or at least survive until when THEY want them to die). If the players outsmarted them in a way that they can't think of an answer for, they will be more than willing to use any advantage they can to fix that. Even if it means springing details on the PCs like the streets. They may or may not even be doing it consciously. To me, it's a major concern and the reason I use minis. During my second edition days when we didn't play with minis, we used to argue nearly every session about misunderstood descriptions and changed details from round to round. It was not uncommon for things like: Player 1: "Ok, how far away am I from the enemies?" DM: "30 feet." Player 1: "Alright, I shoot him with an arrow." Player 2: "Ok, where am I?" DM: "Right beside Player 1." Player 2: "I move forward and attack." DM: "Sorry, you are too far away from the enemy to charge this round." Player 2: "What? I'm 30 feet away!" DM: "No, you are 50 feet away." Player 2: "You just told Player 1 that he was 30 feet away, and I'm right beside him, so I should be 30 feet away too!" DM: "No, I told Player 1 he was 50 feet away." Player 3: "I think the DM is right, I heard 50." Player 1: "Actually, he did tell me thir..." DM (Interrupting): "I said 50. That's it, can we stop arguing about this?!?!" Repeat this discussion about some stupid detail or another about 100 times and that's the reason why I like to use minis. [/QUOTE]

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