Is Heavy Metal "Rebellious"?

[megamania]

What kind of normal people do you know?

I know plenty of perfectly normal people who enjoy heavy metal wholeheartedly.

What if I enjoy heavy metal and Lady Gaga? Is that abnormal?

I listen to a bit of everything myself. Lady Gaga and Ke$ha lately but in the past week I have bought-

Motley Crue, U2, Katy Perry and Kiss. Its all good.

 

[megamania]

At one time, listening to Elvis was rebellious.

At one time, listening to the Beatles was rebellious.

At one time, listening to Heavy Metal music was rebellious.

Today? None of those are rebellion. Heck Elvis, the Beatles, and a goodly amount of Heavy Metal are "classics" at this point.

The root of rebellion is doing that which is not acceptable - doing that which drives your parents up the wall, which your peers look at you funny for doing. HM is too old a genre, too well-known, too accepted as they way things are to be rebellious.

Rebellious or bad taste.... wear meat as a suit/ dress. I like my steak and bacon but cooked... not worn.

 

[megamania]

I still remember when Motley Crue was considered hard rock or heavy metal. MNow its classic rock.....?!?


What my point is... time will tell if something is "rebellious".

Elvis was because he swung his hips. Now if you don't you are not cool.

Two Live Crew was rebellious and vulgure. Now most of the groups say the special words and speak of the subjects are considered main stream.

Madonna was once the sexy sl** od music. Now her music is considered tame (at least by myself) compared to the Lady Gagas and Britneys of music today.


So.... in ten years we can look back and see whom is "rebellious" and whom set the new standard in music enterment.

 

[jonesy]

So.... in ten years we can look back and see whom is "rebellious" and whom set the new standard in music enterment.

Hmm. Assuming a successful rebellion, those two aren't mutually exclusive. Which might actually be counter to what some of the rebels would want. I mean, isn't counter-culture a type of culture too? How do you avoid classification without staying unknown?

 

[Dark Jezter]

I still remember when Motley Crue was considered hard rock or heavy metal. MNow its classic rock.....?!?

In the radio broadcasting sense of the term, "classic rock" is usually defined as rock that is at least 20 years old.

Meaning that this year, Pantera's Cowboys From Hell album achieved classic rock status.

 

[IronWolf]

Meaning that this year, Pantera's Cowboys From Hell album achieved classic rock status.

Yeesh! I'm old!

 

[Umbran]

The genre evolves over time and can still push the limits. While Metallica is mainstream now, heavy metal evolved past that and beyond. I am pretty certain there are still forms of heavy metal that are on the fringes of mainstream and pushing styles and such that are non-conformist.

Sure. But if you tell a death metal or black metal fan that they're into heavy metal, and they'll laugh at you. HM is the granddaddy of other metal forms, but the granddad's gotten a bit slow in his old age

There's only so far you can push the definition of a genre, or you might as well say that Rhythm and Blues and Rockabilly (some of HM's ancestors) are still rebellious, too.

 

[IronWolf]

Sure. But if you tell a death metal or black metal fan that they're into heavy metal, and they'll laugh at you. HM is the granddaddy of other metal forms, but the granddad's gotten a bit slow in his old age

Quite possibly. Laughing or not does not change that they are each a subgenre of heavy metal.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Quite possibly. Laughing or not does not change that they are each a subgenre of heavy metal.

They are but people get hung up on the labels.

 

[Umbran]

Quite possibly. Laughing or not does not change that they are each a subgenre of heavy metal.

Yes, but the distinction is important. If it weren't important, we'd have stopped at asking if Rock music were rebellious, as Heavy Metal is a subgenre of Rock.