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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5980557" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Actually, yes. I started up the Falkirk RPG Meetup, which attracted a bunch of new gamers, and also served to unify three of the existing RPG groups in the area - groups that had, until then, been largely unaware of one another.</p><p></p><p>And what we found was the success bred success - once you got 30 people signed up, it was <em>much</em> easier to get together a group for any game you wanted to play than it was when we were struggling along at 10 members. And group retention was a lot easier as well, because people could play whatever they wanted whenever they wanted, and didn't have to sit out for months waiting for a spot to open up in an ongoing campaign.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From your OP (emphasis mine):</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Not growing at the rate I'd like" and "not enough new people" imply that it is growing, and that there are some new people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a chicken-and-egg situation. You need the existing customers to attract new customers. The more existing customers you have, the more of a 'buzz' you have around the industry, the easier it is to attract new people.</p><p></p><p>Consider: how many people have read "Fifty Shades of Gray" or "The Da Vinci Code" because someone told them they simply <em>had</em> to read it? And how many read them because of the outstanding quality of the books themselves?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not actually asking WotC to do anything. Honestly, I don't care - they're a large company, they've long-since lost me as a customer, so while I don't wish them any harm neither will I go out of my way to assist them.</p><p></p><p>But what I'm saying is that WotC would be <em>better off</em> if they stopped fighting against other companies and instead worked with them to grow the overall hobby, so they could <em>all</em> benefit. And they should do that even if it meant accepting a smaller percentage share of a larger market. Because 40% of 2,000,000 customers is more than 75% of 1,000,000.</p><p></p><p>To that end, they really should reinstate the OGL for 5e. And they should probably open up 4e via the OGL as well. Plus, they really should arrange some sort of licensing agreement, to get 'official' 5e conversions of the Pathfinder Adventure Paths out there in some form (whether from Paizo.com, Wizards.com, or some third-party source).</p><p></p><p>Stop fighting over the scraps (a route that is leading to the death of D&D), and instead work together so all can survive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If it was a matter of survival? Yes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5980557, member: 22424"] Actually, yes. I started up the Falkirk RPG Meetup, which attracted a bunch of new gamers, and also served to unify three of the existing RPG groups in the area - groups that had, until then, been largely unaware of one another. And what we found was the success bred success - once you got 30 people signed up, it was [i]much[/i] easier to get together a group for any game you wanted to play than it was when we were struggling along at 10 members. And group retention was a lot easier as well, because people could play whatever they wanted whenever they wanted, and didn't have to sit out for months waiting for a spot to open up in an ongoing campaign. From your OP (emphasis mine): "Not growing at the rate I'd like" and "not enough new people" imply that it is growing, and that there are some new people. It's a chicken-and-egg situation. You need the existing customers to attract new customers. The more existing customers you have, the more of a 'buzz' you have around the industry, the easier it is to attract new people. Consider: how many people have read "Fifty Shades of Gray" or "The Da Vinci Code" because someone told them they simply [i]had[/i] to read it? And how many read them because of the outstanding quality of the books themselves? I'm not actually asking WotC to do anything. Honestly, I don't care - they're a large company, they've long-since lost me as a customer, so while I don't wish them any harm neither will I go out of my way to assist them. But what I'm saying is that WotC would be [i]better off[/i] if they stopped fighting against other companies and instead worked with them to grow the overall hobby, so they could [i]all[/i] benefit. And they should do that even if it meant accepting a smaller percentage share of a larger market. Because 40% of 2,000,000 customers is more than 75% of 1,000,000. To that end, they really should reinstate the OGL for 5e. And they should probably open up 4e via the OGL as well. Plus, they really should arrange some sort of licensing agreement, to get 'official' 5e conversions of the Pathfinder Adventure Paths out there in some form (whether from Paizo.com, Wizards.com, or some third-party source). Stop fighting over the scraps (a route that is leading to the death of D&D), and instead work together so all can survive. If it was a matter of survival? Yes. [/QUOTE]
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