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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rogue Agent" data-source="post: 6012906" data-attributes="member: 6673496">Exactly. And that's why 4E was a failed edition.Any new edition of a game is going to pick up some percentage of the current market. But when you lose at least half your customers, I find it impossible to describe that as anything other than a failure.The key difference is not how many levels the box covered, its what you did with the box once you're done with it.If you're playing the BECMI Basic Set and you buy the Expert Set, what do you do with the Basic Set? You keep using it.If you're using the 4E Starter Set and you buy either the core rulebooks or the Essentials rulebooks, what do you do with the Starter Set? You stick it on a shelf and you stop using it.The distinction in usage here is really huge: If you're new player being introduced to an existing group, you're going to want to pick up the same rulebooks everyone else does. If it's a BECMI group, that means picking up the Basic Set; if it's a 4E group, you're not going to touch the 4E Starter Set.If you're a new player being introduced to the game by buying a product, the Starter Set ends up being a false start: It's a disposable preview of some other game that you should have bought instead.Take Arkham Horror, for example: If FFG marketed a version of the game which only included 6 investigators and 1 Ancient One as an "Arkham Horror: Starter Set" I would expect that product to crash and burn. Why would you ever buy the Starter Set instead of just spending an extra $10 on the full thing? OTOH, FFG does great business selling expansions to the core game.</blockquote>

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