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Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!
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<blockquote data-quote="AmerginLiath" data-source="post: 8343571" data-attributes="member: 777"><p>[Here Be Spoilers for War of Souls]</p><p></p><p>As the War of Souls and Weis’s Mina trilogy further depicted things, I’ve gotten the sense that Dragonlance gods are (as always shown) a bit weird in their divinity. There’s always the notion of High God and his “calling from beyond” of beings to grant divine power to, then their divine children (all of course a bit of Jeff Grubb’s old Neoplatonist “original Toril” campaign document given a bit of a Mormon metaphysical spin by Tracy Hickman. Moreso than even with other gods in D&D, where the being and the power can be separated, it feels more like hypostases.</p><p></p><p>Paladine is and is not Bahamut is as much as the being who is now Valthonis is complete and the echoing divinity Bahamut is complete. The incorporated Draco Paladin is both. Similarly, the being that was Takhisis and the continuing echoing divinity Tiamat incorporated into something combined but unique in Draco Cerebrint. (We all know that somehow Astinius is Gilean, but Astinius as he likely exists until the end of Krynn and the Book as Highgod creates it at the beginning of Krynn from a different eternal perspective are hypostases) Even the fact that Takhisis can “steal the world” from Krynnspace to ‘Dragonspace’ likely involves the strings of that echo shared between her and Universal Tiamat, like a user following a network along to a different terminal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AmerginLiath, post: 8343571, member: 777"] [Here Be Spoilers for War of Souls] As the War of Souls and Weis’s Mina trilogy further depicted things, I’ve gotten the sense that Dragonlance gods are (as always shown) a bit weird in their divinity. There’s always the notion of High God and his “calling from beyond” of beings to grant divine power to, then their divine children (all of course a bit of Jeff Grubb’s old Neoplatonist “original Toril” campaign document given a bit of a Mormon metaphysical spin by Tracy Hickman. Moreso than even with other gods in D&D, where the being and the power can be separated, it feels more like hypostases. Paladine is and is not Bahamut is as much as the being who is now Valthonis is complete and the echoing divinity Bahamut is complete. The incorporated Draco Paladin is both. Similarly, the being that was Takhisis and the continuing echoing divinity Tiamat incorporated into something combined but unique in Draco Cerebrint. (We all know that somehow Astinius is Gilean, but Astinius as he likely exists until the end of Krynn and the Book as Highgod creates it at the beginning of Krynn from a different eternal perspective are hypostases) Even the fact that Takhisis can “steal the world” from Krynnspace to ‘Dragonspace’ likely involves the strings of that echo shared between her and Universal Tiamat, like a user following a network along to a different terminal. [/QUOTE]
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