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Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!
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<blockquote data-quote="QuentinGeorge" data-source="post: 8343968" data-attributes="member: 20990"><p><img src="https://media3.giphy.com/media/QXal8ueOZkexa8MGlq/200.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>I guess Dragonlance fans are salty, so to speak, because the strange hard-on non-DL designers has had for this conflation does nothing for Dragonlance except undermine the key themes and personality of the setting?</p><p></p><p>I'd dig out my old post on this board but I can't really be bothered searching for it. Suffice it say, these deities share nothing except that they have a dragon form. In personality and goals there is nothing particularly "draconic" about Paladine. Even less so in his Fizban form - he even says he prefers kender! (And what's with the bizarre idea that Fizban is a prominent identity? Paladine has many avatars, incl a warrior (appeared as such in the ancient eras), the priest Brother Jendle (his preferred avatar during the cataclysm). Fizban was just his war of the Lance era avatar. Tellingly, when he became mortal he didn't become Fizban, he became an elf named Valthonis (not a dragon either, notice something there?) He doesn't even exist in a dragon form when he's talking to his wife and children (weird how they are not dragons, right?)</p><p></p><p>Someone brought up Keith Baker - you know he sees Eberron and similarly existing without any interactions from other worlds right, and has explicitly said that the Tiamat in Eberron has nothing to do with the other Tiamat? (Same with the Eberron Levistus)</p><p></p><p>Nothing is gained from these nonsensical and ridiculous retcons except to hollow out and destroy the original setting, but since they did it for Ravenloft already, I guess that's what they're going to do going forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuentinGeorge, post: 8343968, member: 20990"] [IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/QXal8ueOZkexa8MGlq/200.gif[/IMG] I guess Dragonlance fans are salty, so to speak, because the strange hard-on non-DL designers has had for this conflation does nothing for Dragonlance except undermine the key themes and personality of the setting? I'd dig out my old post on this board but I can't really be bothered searching for it. Suffice it say, these deities share nothing except that they have a dragon form. In personality and goals there is nothing particularly "draconic" about Paladine. Even less so in his Fizban form - he even says he prefers kender! (And what's with the bizarre idea that Fizban is a prominent identity? Paladine has many avatars, incl a warrior (appeared as such in the ancient eras), the priest Brother Jendle (his preferred avatar during the cataclysm). Fizban was just his war of the Lance era avatar. Tellingly, when he became mortal he didn't become Fizban, he became an elf named Valthonis (not a dragon either, notice something there?) He doesn't even exist in a dragon form when he's talking to his wife and children (weird how they are not dragons, right?) Someone brought up Keith Baker - you know he sees Eberron and similarly existing without any interactions from other worlds right, and has explicitly said that the Tiamat in Eberron has nothing to do with the other Tiamat? (Same with the Eberron Levistus) Nothing is gained from these nonsensical and ridiculous retcons except to hollow out and destroy the original setting, but since they did it for Ravenloft already, I guess that's what they're going to do going forward. [/QUOTE]
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