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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8344261" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>Dol Arrah is already a dragon called Dularanahk. Only silly human worshippers from a backwater place called Pyrine mangled her name to Dol Arrah... It's not a stretch to have even stranger stories being claimed to be true about her. Bards can sing silly things at time...</p><p></p><p>In a setting were gods are concrete, real persons with divine power, I can see the problem of importing suddenly the god-like Dragonlance gods, but in a setting where gods don't exist, are disinterested into everyday problem, are outside the Ring of Siberys or are all meeting every Mol night on the top of the Sacred Mountain depending on who you ask, having just a new layer of stories about them is less problematic and less susceptible to destabilise your game by having players with the knowledge of a setting book build false expectations. There would be more problematic changes to integrate into Eberron than stories about potential gods, I think -- like the changes of transportation spells from 3.5 to 4 to 5e that changed the perception of "spread" of house Orien (despite being much smaller a change than importing stories about dragons).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because we're rationally considering that the author is... authoritative?</p><p></p><p>If I were to buy Banksy's Little Girl with Balloon (or the remnant thereof) would I suddenly become qualified to say it's an endorsement of the air travel industry? Would anyone take my word for it? Since it's the public domain, is anyone able to say that, say canonically that the Internationale is a pro-capital market song, despite the intent of the original author? I hope not... I feel KB is (contractually?) obligated to mention that his ideas on Eberron aren't WotC's (and he's doing that great).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if there is something outside the ring of Siberys, it's like parallel universes to our universe IRL: "well, maybe, but it doesn't make any relevant impact on anything since the ring isn't crossable. The decision to enclose a few planes within and create a stable "world" didn't, as far as KB is concerned, implied that there was nothing OUTSIDE Siberys. I'd be miffed if they had planescape's ships landing in Sharn, but saying that "some other places could exist behind an impassable wall" doesn't upset me this much...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IP laws protect an expression of an idea, not an idea itself. WotC has the right to commercially sell products, and could bar KB or anyone from using their IP in their own products, but the ideas themselves are free flowing and moral rights are distinguished from commercial rights even in US IP law -- where the former are, apparently but unsurprising, weakly protected than anywhere else. When looking for the intent of something, I am in the camp of "ask the author first, not the IP owner" [which is, I think, what anyone does instinctively when looking at, say, a painting... one asks "what did the painter wanted to represent, not "what does the museum currently owning it think about it?"]</p><p></p><p>The correct order is therefore:</p><p></p><p>1. the DM</p><p>2. Keith Baker</p><p>3. WotC</p><p>4. Anyone else</p><p>5. Anything in the Forge of War supplement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8344261, member: 42856"] Dol Arrah is already a dragon called Dularanahk. Only silly human worshippers from a backwater place called Pyrine mangled her name to Dol Arrah... It's not a stretch to have even stranger stories being claimed to be true about her. Bards can sing silly things at time... In a setting were gods are concrete, real persons with divine power, I can see the problem of importing suddenly the god-like Dragonlance gods, but in a setting where gods don't exist, are disinterested into everyday problem, are outside the Ring of Siberys or are all meeting every Mol night on the top of the Sacred Mountain depending on who you ask, having just a new layer of stories about them is less problematic and less susceptible to destabilise your game by having players with the knowledge of a setting book build false expectations. There would be more problematic changes to integrate into Eberron than stories about potential gods, I think -- like the changes of transportation spells from 3.5 to 4 to 5e that changed the perception of "spread" of house Orien (despite being much smaller a change than importing stories about dragons). Because we're rationally considering that the author is... authoritative? If I were to buy Banksy's Little Girl with Balloon (or the remnant thereof) would I suddenly become qualified to say it's an endorsement of the air travel industry? Would anyone take my word for it? Since it's the public domain, is anyone able to say that, say canonically that the Internationale is a pro-capital market song, despite the intent of the original author? I hope not... I feel KB is (contractually?) obligated to mention that his ideas on Eberron aren't WotC's (and he's doing that great). Even if there is something outside the ring of Siberys, it's like parallel universes to our universe IRL: "well, maybe, but it doesn't make any relevant impact on anything since the ring isn't crossable. The decision to enclose a few planes within and create a stable "world" didn't, as far as KB is concerned, implied that there was nothing OUTSIDE Siberys. I'd be miffed if they had planescape's ships landing in Sharn, but saying that "some other places could exist behind an impassable wall" doesn't upset me this much... IP laws protect an expression of an idea, not an idea itself. WotC has the right to commercially sell products, and could bar KB or anyone from using their IP in their own products, but the ideas themselves are free flowing and moral rights are distinguished from commercial rights even in US IP law -- where the former are, apparently but unsurprising, weakly protected than anywhere else. When looking for the intent of something, I am in the camp of "ask the author first, not the IP owner" [which is, I think, what anyone does instinctively when looking at, say, a painting... one asks "what did the painter wanted to represent, not "what does the museum currently owning it think about it?"] The correct order is therefore: 1. the DM 2. Keith Baker 3. WotC 4. Anyone else 5. Anything in the Forge of War supplement. [/QUOTE]
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