Pathfinder 1E Is Pathfinder D & D?

[El Mahdi]

YES


Every edition of D&D is D&D. IMO, Pathfinder is another edition of D&D...just as all the retro-clones and most D20/OGL games are also editions of D&D.

 

[El Mahdi]

...Gods, but I am maudlin tonight.

There's a "tonic" for that...

 

[EYEforanEYE]

It is D&D to me and that is all that matters. ;D

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

I say, "I play D&D on Saturdays," so I guess that means PF is D&D, at least for now (I've only been playing a couple months at this point). It'll be interesting to see what I call it a year from now.

That said, I think "D&D" to my mind is really partway between an actual game and a gaming (sub?)genre. It'd be interesting to see what I'd call a Savage Worlds game in my head's "D&D genre". Or whether I'd draw a distinction between 4e Essentials games played with and without warlocks/dragonborn/tieflings of "Forgotten Kingdoms". Or a Micro20 sword & sorc or 'Vermin' game. Or a PF game heavy on the *shudder* alchemists and gunslingers.

Hmmm... Much experimention seems to be in order in the next few years!

 

[KainG]

Yes. For me, this is just another edition of D&D, just as 4th ed. is another edition of D&D.

As someone who grew up with 2nd ed. AD&D, I considered 3rd & 3.5 to continue the same spirit of D&D with similar, yet modified/updated/changed rules. When Pathfinder and and 4th came along, I see the same spirit in both of them (albeit with different degrees between the two, and let's be honest, Paizo took the d20 rules, which were 3.5 D&D, and tweaked a lot about them, but essentially remained the same game).

 

[concerro]

Ok, now before people start jumping up and down; I love Dungeons and Dragons. I am way old school (started in 1977). I was so glad to have found Pathfinder, as I couldn't play 4th Ed. Now, back to my question.

I have played every incarnation of D & D there is. And though my fellow local gamers jokingly call Pathfinder 'D & D 3.8', is it really? The feel isn't there imo. And no, thats not a bad thing, its just different. Before there were dungeon crawls, there was Gygax, etc. I don't know. And now with Pathfinder, which I love, its different. Maybe its like going from one D & D world house game to another.

I tried to explain to a fellow old school gamer who had just glanced at Pathfinder: its like if I Love Lucy comes on TV. I remember a lot of the older shows and loved them. Now I look back, and still love what I see, but compared to today's show, there is definitely a difference.

So I'm asking: is Pathfinder D & D? Or a real close copy. Or something else?

D&D means different things to different people. Some people never accepted 2nd or 3rd edition as D&D. I guess you have to define what D&D is to you in order to get an answer.

 

[Systole]

PF is way more D&D than 4e is.

/flamebait

 

[Agamon]

For me, RPGs are like flowers.

They look different and smell different, but they're all nice, and would look good on the table.

And D&D is a rose...Pathfinder is another name for it, but it still smells as sweet.

Wow...I think I'm tired, lol.

 

[HalfordAskold]

For me, RPGs are like flowers.

They look different and smell different, but they're all nice, and would look good on the table.

And D&D is a rose...Pathfinder is another name for it, but it still smells as sweet.

Wow...I think I'm tired, lol.

Great way to put it. I am sure Shakespeare and Gygax would agree. Now wouldn't that be a group to play with!

 

[Mournblade94]

I prefer Pepsi to Coca Cola. When I order soda in a restaurant, I order a Coke, hoping to get Pepsi.

When I play D&D now, I am playing Pathfinder.

Here is how I know Pathfinder is D&D (not that I needed reassurance.) When I bought the Bestiary, to make it interesting I opened up the 1st edition MM, and read all of the Bestiary entries that were in AD&D MM1 first. Then I read the entries that were AD&D MM2, then AD&D Fiend Folio.

All of the Bestiary entries expanded on the (very limited) amount of fluff present in those earlier AD&D volumes.

EVERY time I run D&D I have included the AD&D DMG in the books I bring with me. In fact I often refer back to it, when creating fluff issues for my campaign. I STILL bring my AD&D DMG to run Dungeons and Dragons version: Pathfinder.

I love to drink coke, but the coke I drink is Pepsi. I still love D&D but the D&D I play is Pathfinder.