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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jaer" data-source="post: 4100716" data-attributes="member: 57861">The healing surges and daily/per encoutner/at will powers don't seem to be the only thing helping to eliminate the 15 minute work day.There is also the 5 minute break between encounters.  If you have three encounters, you've spent at least 10 minutes resting, 5 minutes exploring, and 5 minutes fighting!  Twenty minutes right there!  Woot!On a more serious note, though: I do experience the 15 minute work day with my high level group.  They fight one 6-10 round encounter...at 6 seconds a round, that fight only takes 1 minute.  They go on for a minute or so, then fight the next encounter.  They get in maybe four fights before exhausting their high level spells.  The priest can't heal through combat with low-level magic (she is the most limiting factor, followed by the gish.  The mage/psion multi-class has the spells and power points to go for hours!)Four combats lasting 1 minute each, and the party husseling through rooms so their minute per level duration spells last as many combats as possible...figure at most two minutes between encounters.   They spend a few minutes studying their surroundings and teleport out to rest.The big difference I see between 3e and 4e is that in 3e, clearing 4 rooms is 4 different combats; in 4e, with the larger "encounter space" and different encounter balancing, clearing 4 rooms might be 1 encounter.  You can have a fully populated dungeon cleared in 4-5 encounters and it is easy (supposedly) to balance, while in 3e, this would actually be 8 to 12 seperate combats, which if not CRed correctly, would either be a complete cake-walk (not a 15 minute work day) or potentially a decent challenge (thus needing them to come back over the course of 3 days or push on without proper resources).</blockquote>

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