Is there any way to get Dungeon without Insider?

[Umbran]

Folks,

Please don't start an argument about illegal pdfs here. Just let that subject drop, thanks.

 

[Entropi]

EN World does not condone or support copyright infringement. Please don't advocate such activities on this site.

Bah, acknowledging something exists and advocacy are two different things. I didn't advocate squat.

But I digress. It's your house and I will have to respect your rules and your decision to censor me, much as I find it unpalatable. I won't broach that subject again.

 

[Asmor]

For what it's worth, it was also $10 CAD/issue and nearly impossible to find on the newsstand. (Read: bloody ripoff.)

Magazines are very expensive to print. Most of them don't make any money on sales, either through newsstands or subscriptions. They make all their money with advertisements.

Dungeon & Dragon magazines had a few big things going against them in the pricing department.

1. They're the very definition of a niche product. Low readership means low advertising rates, though that may have been helped a bit by being able to target a very specific demographic very accurately.

2. Relatively high quality. Maybe it's just me, but their paper stock seemed a lot better than some of the other stuff out there (e.g. Time, Maxim, Cosmo, etc).

 

[Kesh]

There are two pieces you may be thinking of as the "character generator". There's the Character Visualizer, which is the "3d modeling thingy", and then there's the character sheet generator, which is just a way to make a character sheet. It's likely (but not guaranteed) that the character sheet generator will be purely online like the rules database, in which case it'll probably be Mac-friendly. The Character Visualizer will require software and will be Windows-only upon its release.

Actually, as far as I recall, they're the same program (ie. the character generator is part of the character visualizer app). That may have changed, but that was the hints we were getting early on.

 

[Merkuri]

Actually, as far as I recall, they're the same program (ie. the character generator is part of the character visualizer app). That may have changed, but that was the hints we were getting early on.

Nope, check out the current info on D&D Insider here. It lists the Character Builder and Character Visualizer as two separate things. The Visualizer is the one that requires 3D. It notes that you can put a screenshot of your character from Visualizer into your sheet in Builder.