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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2286135" data-attributes="member: 4937">I like somewhere between 28-32 point by both as a DM and a player.&nbsp; Any higher point buy than that and I think the effective level of the party goes up, and the only net result is that you have to throw higher CR challenges against the party than usual.&nbsp; Also, typically if the PC's have a 40+ point buy, then you can pretty much expect that some of the NPC's do too, so the net result is that you are no more extraordinary than you would be otherwise.If you are a 32 point buy character, I'd like to think you've got a point buy as good as anyone you are ever likely to meet.&nbsp; Typical NPC's in my campaign are 15-20 point buy, and seldom have any stats above 14.I wasn't aware that Battletech used a D20 mechanic.Rolling 6 20's in a row at a Battletech convention would be pretty impressive, considering most of the time you are throwing 2d6.There was this guy at a MtG tournament who was in desparate straights until he had a moment of inspiration and tore up his Chaos Orb and tossed the peices into the air.It's not the somewhat improbable ones that I question.&nbsp; It's the somewhat impossible ones that really get me to raise my eyebrows.&nbsp;Yes, that would do it.&nbsp; But then Wish can do alot of things that normally aren't in the rules.&nbsp; It's a rare DM that grants wishes to low level characters.&nbsp;No need to apologize; I like novels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2286135, member: 4937"] I like somewhere between 28-32 point by both as a DM and a player. Any higher point buy than that and I think the effective level of the party goes up, and the only net result is that you have to throw higher CR challenges against the party than usual. Also, typically if the PC's have a 40+ point buy, then you can pretty much expect that some of the NPC's do too, so the net result is that you are no more extraordinary than you would be otherwise. If you are a 32 point buy character, I'd like to think you've got a point buy as good as anyone you are ever likely to meet. Typical NPC's in my campaign are 15-20 point buy, and seldom have any stats above 14. I wasn't aware that Battletech used a D20 mechanic. Rolling 6 20's in a row at a Battletech convention would be pretty impressive, considering most of the time you are throwing 2d6. There was this guy at a MtG tournament who was in desparate straights until he had a moment of inspiration and tore up his Chaos Orb and tossed the peices into the air. It's not the somewhat improbable ones that I question. It's the somewhat impossible ones that really get me to raise my eyebrows. Yes, that would do it. But then Wish can do alot of things that normally aren't in the rules. It's a rare DM that grants wishes to low level characters. No need to apologize; I like novels. [/QUOTE]

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