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Is TSR's Battlesystem 2nd edition any good? Would 5e stats convert?
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<blockquote data-quote="pogre" data-source="post: 7998594" data-attributes="member: 6588"><p>Is it good? </p><p>If you are looking for a way to quickly resolve mass battles for your D&D game - certainly not. Converting 5e stats I think would be doable. This game has a level granularity and variety some will like, but it comes at a cost - time. You probably could play an entire Kings of War or Warhammer Fantasy Battle game in the time it takes to play a quarter game of Battlesystem.</p><p></p><p>So here's why I like it and most gamers do not.</p><p></p><p>D&D players typically are looking for a game where the mass combat can be resolved quickly and their PCs play a key role in the battle. It's not going to work for them. The system is not quick and your PC can be smashed if you make the wrong move. PCs can be pivotal in a battle, but depending on the scale of the conflict, are probably not the most dangerous things on the board.</p><p></p><p>Wargamers are probably not going to like it because there are just so many judgment calls - particularly in the areas of magic spells. Spells and magic would be some of the trickiest stuff to convert to 5e BTW.</p><p></p><p>I like it because it provides a framework for a massive D&D campaign climax battle with tons of figures and tons of dice. The PCs have a real stake in the game and are a lot less flippant about committing a cavalry unit that has Frank's fighter PC in it. I don't think anyone would run the game regularly, because it is pretty much an all day commitment - I cannot see a meaningful battle being completed in less than six hours. It is a very cool alternative to the narrative style running of a mass combat that most D&D campaigns use these days. I do think you have to like mass combat games to enjoy it - it is much more of a mass combat game than a RPG supplement.</p><p></p><p>So for me - it's good. For you? Well, that depends on what you are looking for,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pogre, post: 7998594, member: 6588"] Is it good? If you are looking for a way to quickly resolve mass battles for your D&D game - certainly not. Converting 5e stats I think would be doable. This game has a level granularity and variety some will like, but it comes at a cost - time. You probably could play an entire Kings of War or Warhammer Fantasy Battle game in the time it takes to play a quarter game of Battlesystem. So here's why I like it and most gamers do not. D&D players typically are looking for a game where the mass combat can be resolved quickly and their PCs play a key role in the battle. It's not going to work for them. The system is not quick and your PC can be smashed if you make the wrong move. PCs can be pivotal in a battle, but depending on the scale of the conflict, are probably not the most dangerous things on the board. Wargamers are probably not going to like it because there are just so many judgment calls - particularly in the areas of magic spells. Spells and magic would be some of the trickiest stuff to convert to 5e BTW. I like it because it provides a framework for a massive D&D campaign climax battle with tons of figures and tons of dice. The PCs have a real stake in the game and are a lot less flippant about committing a cavalry unit that has Frank's fighter PC in it. I don't think anyone would run the game regularly, because it is pretty much an all day commitment - I cannot see a meaningful battle being completed in less than six hours. It is a very cool alternative to the narrative style running of a mass combat that most D&D campaigns use these days. I do think you have to like mass combat games to enjoy it - it is much more of a mass combat game than a RPG supplement. So for me - it's good. For you? Well, that depends on what you are looking for, [/QUOTE]
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