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<blockquote data-quote="TheAlkaizer" data-source="post: 8926968" data-attributes="member: 7024893">They never had the intention to do so. They did so after threatening a whole ecosystem and hobby leading into tens of thousands of people yelling at them. If people hadn't yelled, things would be very different.The leadership of twenty years is not the leadership of now. Same branding, different company.They may not have broken any promises (not that they didn't attempt to) but they did break the trust the brand had built with many people over the years.Anyway, saying they didn't break their promise as an argument is very weird to me. Here's a bad analogy to illustrate how I see it: &quot;They held a gun at my head and were about to shoot, but something stopped them and they didn't. So we're good, they didn't kill anyone.&quot;Far more content? How do you measure it? In books? Pathfinder 2E has released more books in four years then 5E did in almost a decade. Paizo's entire rules are available for free online, and we're not even talking about Starfinder and Pathfinder 1E.And if you were referring to what others have put out through the license for WOTC, then I really don't see how it's a positive; it reflects even worse on them. You'd be right in that no other RPG had more open game content made by others through a permissive license; and this is an important catalyst in 5E's success over some of the other RPGs and publishers that you're naming. It's been embraced and celebrated. And then they turned around and tried to destroy everything that brought them to where they had never been before. It's an even sadder story.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheAlkaizer, post: 8926968, member: 7024893"] They never had the intention to do so. They did so after threatening a whole ecosystem and hobby leading into tens of thousands of people yelling at them. If people hadn't yelled, things would be very different. The leadership of twenty years is not the leadership of now. Same branding, different company. They may not have broken any promises (not that they didn't attempt to) but they did break the trust the brand had built with many people over the years. Anyway, saying they didn't break their promise as an argument is very weird to me. Here's a bad analogy to illustrate how I see it: [I]"They held a gun at my head and were about to shoot, but something stopped them and they didn't. So we're good, they didn't kill anyone[/I]." Far more content? How do you measure it? In books? Pathfinder 2E has released more books in four years then 5E did in almost a decade. Paizo's entire rules are available for free online, and we're not even talking about Starfinder and Pathfinder 1E. And if you were referring to what [I]others[/I] have put out through the license [I]for[/I] WOTC, then I really don't see how it's a positive; it reflects even worse on them. You'd be right in that no other RPG had more open game content made [I]by others[/I] through a permissive license; and this is an important catalyst in 5E's success over some of the other RPGs and publishers that you're naming. It's been embraced and celebrated. And then they turned around and tried to destroy everything that brought them to where they had never been before. It's an even sadder story. [/QUOTE]

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