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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Velderan" data-source="post: 8928948" data-attributes="member: 7038056">Yup, it's probably why WotC was so focused on cancelled DDB subs since those were definitely customers for them to keep or lose. A lot of the complaints are just people who had an axe to grind with WotC for whatever reason and this was just a good opportunity to join the mob. Personally, I have a 5e game scheduled for tonight on a campaign we're winding down. The OGL situation just got me to look at other games and found one that did things better from my perspective. I'll continue to pay attention to 1D&D's development, provide feedback on the playtest material, and see where they land to decide if down the road my gaming path and WotC cross again.My objection to the stance we need WotC in 2023 is that I don't think it's so clear. Would the market contract in the extremely unlikely event they shelved the system? Almost certainly, because no other system has the recognition that ampersand carries. As you noted, the TTRPG market isn't a fixed sized pie with bigger slices adding up to the same total going out to the publishers left in the hypothetical absence of WotC. The market shrinking isn't the same as it vanishing and yes that would lead to some creators failing which is why I stressed I will continue supporting talented people I currently like even if I'm not planning to play 5e any time soon.I don't envy the decision making a lot of the industry faces right now. How many folks ordered a PF2e Core Rulebook to spite WotC and will never actually play PF2e? My FLGS had trouble selling their initial batch of PF2e books and said they're hesitant to order more because they have no idea what the actual demand will be going forward. Paizo ordering a reprint that won't arrive until April and accurately knowing how many they need is guesswork at best since they probably have no idea what their actual customer base is anymore. That doesn't even begin to help 3pp figure out how viable making material for PF2e is, both due to an unsure market and a much faster release schedule by Paizo that they'd need to compete with. The next year will be interesting for sure to see how things play out.</blockquote>

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