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IcyCool said:
I'd just like to take the opportunity to say how much I like the new Killoren race. They are just supremely cool in my opinion.

I'll second that. They were way under represented in the book. Though the Raptorans aren't what they could've been, at least they aren't glorified humans like most of the Incarnum(all but the duskling), Psionic(most of them, except for Dromites, Githxxx, and the Thri-Kreen), and RoD(the illumian is some lame rip-off of the Dabus, I guess) crap was. I would also like point out how badly they've ruined many creatures since re-tweaking them to 3.5: they ruined the Kenku, they ruined the Mongrelman/folk(the suffix "man" has nothing to do with gender, but that's not where they screwed them.). What's next? Make Zoveri* fiends just because they're aberations? I wouldn't be suprised.



*Zoveri are LG octopoid celestials not yet converted from 2nd ed.
 

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BrotherDog said:
I'll second that. They were way under represented in the book. Though the Raptorans aren't what they could've been, at least they aren't glorified humans like most of the Incarnum(all but the duskling), Psionic(most of them, except for Dromites, Githxxx, and the Thri-Kreen), and RoD(the illumian is some lame rip-off of the Dabus, I guess) crap was. I would also like point out how badly they've ruined many creatures since re-tweaking them to 3.5: they ruined the Kenku, they ruined the Mongrelman/folk(the suffix "man" has nothing to do with gender, but that's not where they screwed them.). What's next? Make Zoveri* fiends just because they're aberations? I wouldn't be suprised.

*Zoveri are LG octopoid celestials not yet converted from 2nd ed.
Wait. Wait. They ruined the kenku? You mean they made the kenku completely awesome. Previous edition kenku were redundant. They were tengu with the serial numbers filed off. And there were already stats for the tengu! Whereas 3.5 kenku are crafty raven-folk with ties to Pazuzu, mimicry, and can easily work as a PC race. I love the new kenku.

I mean, they're not going to please the old grognards, but they're not "OMG they're going to make LG outsiders CE just 'cause they're ugly" bad. Don't go jumping to conclusions.

Demiurge out.
 


demiurge1138 said:
Wait. Wait. They ruined the kenku? You mean they made the kenku completely awesome. Previous edition kenku were redundant. They were tengu with the serial numbers filed off. And there were already stats for the tengu! Whereas 3.5 kenku are crafty raven-folk with ties to Pazuzu, mimicry, and can easily work as a PC race. I love the new kenku.

I mean, they're not going to please the old grognards, but they're not "OMG they're going to make LG outsiders CE just 'cause they're ugly" bad. Don't go jumping to conclusions.

Demiurge out.
I agree.

Kenku were, IMO, super lame in pre-3e eras. 3.5 made them much more interesting. I can't say the same thing about everything converted to 3.x, though. ;)
 

Frukathka said:
And what, pray tell, will Races of the Dragon spew upon us?
From the catalogue:

"Races of the Dragon provides D&D players and Dungeon Masters with an in-depth look at races descended from or related to dragons. In addition to exploring the fan-favorite kobold race, Races of the Dragon introduces two new races, dragonborn and spellscales, and provides information on half-dragons. The dragonborn are a transitive race, an exciting new concept that allows players to transform from their initial race into a new one. The book also includes a wealth of cultural information and new prestige classes, feats, equipment, spells and magic items."

From the GenCon seminars:

"Our January kickoff project, it follows the Races series, but we sort of break format a little bit. One of the new races that we're introducing is unlike any new race that we at Wizards have done before. It's our first transformative race. It is a race you can become after first level. You are an elf, an elf, an elf, boom! This will gravitate towards players who are looking for some sort of change in the fundamental nature of your character. We also introduce another new race, and talk about kobolds, dragons, half-dragons. This book will tie into something greater coming later in 2006 (we introduce some heroic type races, later in they year, we'll introduce their counterpart)."

The back-cover blurb:

"In ages past, dragons ruled supreme. Now their distant scions, the races and individuals who carry their blood, live among the great empires of the world, where they forge their own glorious legacies. You can be among them. Embrace your draconic heritage, and the spoils of the world can be yours!

This supplement for the D&D game provides detailed information on the psychology, society, culture, behavior, religion, and folklore of the dragonblooded races, including kobolds and half-dragons. This book introduces two new player character races: the dragonborn (existing characters reborn in a new draconic form to combat and destroy the spawn of Tiamat) and the spellscales (artistic, philosophical beings with a penchant for sorcery and a thirst for new experiences). It also provides new prestige classes, feats, spells, magic items, equipment, and guidelines for crafting adventures and campaigns involving dragonblooded races."
 


demiurge1138 said:
Wait. Wait. They ruined the kenku? You mean they made the kenku completely awesome. Previous edition kenku were redundant. They were tengu with the serial numbers filed off. And there were already stats for the tengu! Whereas 3.5 kenku are crafty raven-folk with ties to Pazuzu, mimicry, and can easily work as a PC race. I love the new kenku.

I mean, they're not going to please the old grognards, but they're not "OMG they're going to make LG outsiders CE just 'cause they're ugly" bad. Don't go jumping to conclusions.

Demiurge out.

Wrowng! Kenku and Tengu are supposed to be closely related species. The new thingies should have been given a different name. There are no 2 ways about it,. Those things are not Kenku.
First off I didn't mean to imply that the creature itself necessarily lame. They ruined them with the whole Pazuzu thing in the 1st place. They should have been Good or at least Neutral from being raven-like in the 2nd place. Oh well, their fluff gets changed in my game anyway. I wouldn't ruin something with that kind of potential by stealing its name from another creature, and make it so STUPID*.


*to clarify:
Evil = stupid, because it is short=sightedly selfish and sheepish
 

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