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<blockquote data-quote="Renfield" data-source="post: 4318801" data-attributes="member: 13493"><p>Hmmm,</p><p></p><p>I think I'll help with the pseudo-resurrection of this thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>I've gone back and fourth over the whole 4e thing for awhile now. I'm actually glad I didn't stumble onto this thread until now as my opinion has jumped from hate it, to can't hardly wait, to hate it to skeptic yet hopeful and round again. Now that I physically have copies of the books and have ran a session (admittedly only a bit of roleplaying and an encounter or two) I feel I can make a more substantiated opinion. </p><p></p><p>I myself will not be switching over to 4e.</p><p></p><p>I will play it but it will be closer to a junk food RPG, for when I feel lazy and don't want to deal with as many complexities as 3e has. I will say DM prep time, mechanically at least, is a lot easier with 4e whereas (for me at least) it took forever for me to properly prep a game... nevermind that some of my best sessions were completely off the cuff with only an idea and a couple monster stats to work with but that's neither here nor there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> </p><p></p><p>I think, mechanically, it's a good game, there are a few aspects that come off as rushed or at least not paid the attention necessary (*cough* rituals *cough* and if you doubt look up that 24th level scry ritual, pure B.S.) to fully take advantage of the idea. 4th edition strikes me as a great combat mechanic but not a great RPG. My games don't focus as much on combat as 4e seems to, that, and Paizo has won me over. </p><p></p><p>I will be sticking with 3.5 but in it's new form, to me, the Pathfinder RPG better maintains the D&D feel. My group shares this opinion and considering how much they've invested in 3rd edition this works out best for all of us. That and I have loved all their Adventure Path modules thus far as well as their campaign world so I'm pretty much sold on them. </p><p></p><p>Will I be switching over? No. Will I play it? Yes. Will I buy everything? Hell no. Will I buy everything they publish? Hell no. 4e just doesn't maintain the feel of D&D for me, perhaps I'm just one of those old (ha!) gamers that wax nostalgic but it seems like a different system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Renfield, post: 4318801, member: 13493"] Hmmm, I think I'll help with the pseudo-resurrection of this thread. :) I've gone back and fourth over the whole 4e thing for awhile now. I'm actually glad I didn't stumble onto this thread until now as my opinion has jumped from hate it, to can't hardly wait, to hate it to skeptic yet hopeful and round again. Now that I physically have copies of the books and have ran a session (admittedly only a bit of roleplaying and an encounter or two) I feel I can make a more substantiated opinion. I myself will not be switching over to 4e. I will play it but it will be closer to a junk food RPG, for when I feel lazy and don't want to deal with as many complexities as 3e has. I will say DM prep time, mechanically at least, is a lot easier with 4e whereas (for me at least) it took forever for me to properly prep a game... nevermind that some of my best sessions were completely off the cuff with only an idea and a couple monster stats to work with but that's neither here nor there :P I think, mechanically, it's a good game, there are a few aspects that come off as rushed or at least not paid the attention necessary (*cough* rituals *cough* and if you doubt look up that 24th level scry ritual, pure B.S.) to fully take advantage of the idea. 4th edition strikes me as a great combat mechanic but not a great RPG. My games don't focus as much on combat as 4e seems to, that, and Paizo has won me over. I will be sticking with 3.5 but in it's new form, to me, the Pathfinder RPG better maintains the D&D feel. My group shares this opinion and considering how much they've invested in 3rd edition this works out best for all of us. That and I have loved all their Adventure Path modules thus far as well as their campaign world so I'm pretty much sold on them. Will I be switching over? No. Will I play it? Yes. Will I buy everything? Hell no. Will I buy everything they publish? Hell no. 4e just doesn't maintain the feel of D&D for me, perhaps I'm just one of those old (ha!) gamers that wax nostalgic but it seems like a different system. [/QUOTE]
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