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Jack Vance, Dying Earth, and the Primer of Practical Magic

New Primer review, spell failure rule adjustment

New review of the primer up, by ENworlds own Psion

http://www.enworld.org/reviews/index.php?sub=yes&where=active&reviewer=Psion&product=PtPM

In answer to a query he had about the spell failure system:

I agree with the suggestion that the DC for casting be 10 +(spell level x2). One problem we had with the Primer was that for whatever reason all the playtesting ended up being done at pretty low level, partially due to being caught in the middle of the 3.5 update. So a couple of things like this did not become apparent until too late! For that, I apologize. This issue with the skills surpassing the spellcasting DC actually came up in my own campaign when the wizard players started maxing out their spellcraft skills. We actually made exactly the same modification that Psion suggested. The above rule for the higher DC makes it work much better.

To clarify: casting a spell requires a spellcraft skill check. The DC is 10+ spell level x2, (11 for level zero). Failure by 8 or more points, or by rolling a natural one followed by a second failure, means a Dismal failure.

I.e. to cast a fireball requires a spellcraft check with a DC of 16. If you roll an 8 or less, you have a Dismal Failure, if you roll 12 or more over the DC, (a 28) you have an illustrious success. If you roll a 16 or higher, the spell works normally.

Overall the spell failure rules have really enhanced the game in my experience, I love 'em!

I really appreciated Psions review though, thanks :) You seemed to really get the point of the book. I hope you get a chance to use it in a game.

For those of you who have the Primer, don't forget to check out the errata on the Codicillairy page at Pelgrane

http://www.pelgranepress.com/downloads/Codicillary.pdf

DB
 
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Well, here is like a year or some odd months after the release of the Primer of Practical Magic. It pretty much got tanked in most reviews though a few people really liked it. I'm proud to say that I had the honor of being excoriated by some of the most brilliant minds in the RPG industry:) As a result of the bad reviews and some balance problems with the rules, the Primer disappeared into the rising flood of D20 products like a stone and left nary a ripple on the surface.

Now that the excitement of writing my first rpg book has passed, I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there other than myself who ever got much use out of the book? We actually used it a lot in our campaign here and expanded on several of the themes therin. I would very much like to hear any anecdotes of using spells like 'The vulgar interruption' or 'gochnours bootlip' in game. Did anyone use the Codicilliary we put out on Pelgranes website? I would especially love to hear from any of the people who had bought the book who posted in this thread way back when, and hear how you are doing with your gaming and anything else.

Meanwhile I'm still writing, I wrote a third part of another book for "The Riddle of Steel" RPG which has been much more well recieved :) and I'm working on another RPG book on Vikings right now.

DB
 
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Drifter Bob, not sure if you're still checking on this. I dug out my copy of the Primer a couple of weeks ago. I never got to use it much in 3.0/3.5, due to a number of factors, the most pressing being a total lack of free time to run a homebrew campaign back then. Nowadays, I find I have more free time; and with the release of 5E, and the ease with which you can convert 3.0/3.5 material to the new system, I've got a yen to run a more Vancian game. I thought I'd download the Codicilliary, but I'm getting an error downloading it from Pelgrane. Is this still available?
 

Doesn't look like Drifter Bob has been active on the site since 2005. You might strike lucky if you PM him and he has notifications turned on.

Looking at this on DriveThru (as it sounds interesting) the PDF includes the Codicilliary now.
 


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