Japanese DnD3e translation team need your help!

[Shin Okada]

Dear EN world members. Japanese translation team for DnD3e core rule books need your help. As we are not using western alphabets, we must transliterate any proper nouns in DnD. Some of them can be found in WotC or TSR's pronunciation guide. And some of them are answered by WotC design team. Still, we haven't received some answer from them and, provably, we have not enough time to wait for their answer. So I want to consult you hard-core DnD players. How can I pronounce those words?

(Places in "World of Greyhawk")
Urnst
Thorris

(monsters)
destrachan
tiefling

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish"
"Daern's" Instant Fortress
"Heward's" Handy Haversack
"Ioun" Stones
Iron Bands of "Bilarro"
"Keoghtom's" Ointment
"Murlynd's" Spoon
"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments
"Quaal's" Feather Token
Talisman of "Zagy"
The Shield of "Prator"

Thanks a lot in advance

 

[mmu1]

Hmm... Well, this is how some of these are pronounced in most of the games I was in:

Destrachan: Dez-thra-ken
Tiefling: Thief-ling

Kwalish: Kwa-leash (as in (dog)leash)
Ioun: Ah-yoon
Keoghtom's: Key-oh-toms
Heward's: Hugh-wards (like Hugh Grant or Hugh Hefner)
Bilarro: Bill-ah-ro
Prator: Prah-tor
Quall's: Kwalls

 

[Zhure]

(Places in "World of Greyhawk")
Urnst- Earnst (like the word 'earn' with an ending 'st')
Thorris - THOR-iss (soft 's')

(monsters)
destrachan - des-trah-khan
tiefling- TEA-fling

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish"- KWA-lish
"Daern's" Instant Fortress - DAYrns
"Heward's" Handy Haversack - HEW-urd's
"Ioun" Stones - AYE-un
Iron Bands of "Bilarro" - Bill-AR-oh
"Keoghtom's" Ointment - Key-OH-tums
"Murlynd's" Spoon - MUR-lind's
"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments - NOL-zur (like "gnoll")
"Quaal's" Feather Token - Kwal's
Talisman of "Zagy" - Zag-EE
The Shield of "Prator" - PRAY-tor


I think you'll find English speakers have huge vowel dialectic differences in made-up words, but we focus on consonents to understand the intent of the word.

Greg

 

[SimonMoon5]

Here's how I'd transliterate some of these into katakana...

Urnst

U-ri-n-su-to

Thorris

So-rri-su

(monsters)
destrachan

De-e-su-to-ra-ka-n

tiefling

Ti(Te-i)-i-fu-ri-n-gu

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish"

Ku-wa-a-ri-shu... or is it Ki-wa for Q sounds... I can never remember...

"Daern's" Instant Fortress

Not sure. Maybe...
De-i-ru-n

"Heward's" Handy Haversack

Hyu-u-wa-ru-do

"Ioun" Stones

A-i-u-n

Iron Bands of "Bilarro"

Bi-ra-a-rro

"Keoghtom's" Ointment

I've always pronounced with a hard "g", making it like...
Ki-o-gi-to-mu, but if the "g" is silent as Zhure suggests, then...
Ki-o-tto-mu

"Murlynd's" Spoon

Me-ru-ri-n-do

"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments

No-u-ri-zu-u-ru

"Quaal's" Feather Token

Ku-wa-a-ru

Talisman of "Zagy"

Za-gi

The Shield of "Prator"

Pu-re-i-to-ru


But those are just guesses.

 

[Ferret]

(Places in "World of Greyhawk")
Urnst(earn-st)
Thorris(thor-iss)

(monsters)
destrachan(De-strak-ian)
tiefling(tef-ling)

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish"(Ka-walsh)
"Daern's" Instant Fortress(day-earns)
"Heward's" Handy Haversack(Hew-ards)
"Ioun" Stones(I-oon)
Iron Bands of "Bilarro"(Bill-a-row)
"Keoghtom's" Ointment(Key-o-tom's)
"Murlynd's" Spoon(Mur-lind's)
"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments(Nol-zur's)
"Quaal's" Feather Token(Kwal)
Talisman of "Zagy"(zag-ee)
The Shield of "Prator"(Pray-tor)

Thats my way

 

[Gaiden]

I took japanese for a year - I will try my best:

(Places in "World of Greyhawk")

Urnst = u ru n so tu (sorry can't convert to katakana)
Thorris = tho (can't figure that one out, its been 4 years) ru i su

(monsters)
destrachan = te' su chi ra cha n
tiefling = ta i fu ri n

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish" = ku wa ri shyo
"Daern's" Instant Fortress = (instant fortress) no te' u ru n
"Heward's" Handy Haversack = (handy haversack) no hi yu wa ru da
"Ioun" Stones = a i o n
Iron Bands of "Bilarro" = pi' ra (tsu - silent) ro
"Keoghtom's" Ointment = (ointment) no ki o gu to mu
"Murlynd's" Spoon = (spoon) no mu ru ri n da
"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments = (marvelous pigments) no no ru tsu ra
"Quaal's" Feather Token = (feather token) no ku wa ru
Talisman of "Zagy" = sa' gi
The Shield of "Prator" = pu re i tu ra

 

[Hopping Vampire]

well, dnd has been translated in to japanese already, both second and third edition, as well as GURPS and World of Darkness.

 

[Shin Okada]

well, dnd has been translated in to japanese already, both second and third edition, as well as GURPS and World of Darkness.

Yes. Actually, PHB has been published in the end of the last year. And now we almost finished translating the DMG and it will be published in April 23.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Re: Re: Japanese DnD3e translation team need your help!

"Heward's" Handy Haversack

Hyu-u-wa-ru-do[/B]

Perhaps "Hyu-wa-a-do"?

-Hyp.

 

[Alzrius]

Here are how I would translate these names into katakana. This is coming off of six years of studying Japanese, so it should be useable. I know you just want specific names, but where applicable, I've translated all of it for easy reference.

(Places in "World of Greyhawk")
Urnst

a-n-su-to

Thorris

Zo(tsu)-ri-su (after the "zo" put a subset "tsu" mark that indicates a moment of paused stress)

(monsters)
destrachan

de-su-to-ra-ka-n

tiefling

ta-i-hu-ri-n-gu

(magic items)
Apparatus of "Kwalish"

A(tsu)-pa-ra-ti(te with a subset i)-su o-bu ku-wa-ri-shu (shi with a subset u)

"Daern's" Instant Fortress

da-e-ru-n-su i-n-su-ta-n-to ho(hu with a subset o)-to-re-su

"Heward's" Handy Haversack

hyu(hu with a subset yu)-waa(a choon after the wa)-tzu (tsu with a mark above it) ha-n-di (de with a sbuset i) ha-ba-sa-ku

"Ioun" Stones

i-a-u-n su-to-n-zu

Iron Bands of "Bilarro"

a-i-yaa(choon after the ya)-n ba-n-tzu o-bu bi-ra(tsu)-ro

"Keoghtom's" Ointment

ki-o(tsu)-to-mu-su o-i-n-to-me-n-to

"Murlynd's" Spoon

Maa(choon)-ru-n-tzu su-pu-n

"Nolzur's" Marvelous Pigments

no-ru-za-zu ma-ba-re-su pi(tsu)-gu-me-n-tsu

"Quaal's" Feather Token

ku-a(choon)-ru-zu fe(choon)-za to-ke-n

Talisman of "Zagy"

ta-ri-su-ma-n o-bu za-gi

(I think you may mean Zagyg here. If so, the name is "za(tsu)-gi-gu")

The Shield of "Prator"

za shi-ru-du(de with a subset u) o-bu pu-ra-to-ru

Hope this helps!

As an aside, being an American studying in Japan, and since Ibaraki is close to Tokyo, I'd be happy to lend any more assistance you guys would need. If so, just let me know through my email.