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Jeremy Crawford Gives an Overview of the New Unearthed Arcana
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<blockquote data-quote="Veltharis ap Rylix" data-source="post: 9002411" data-attributes="member: 66357"><p>I think we're talking past each other a bit.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the Hexblade as a Patron option should be designed around the use of a weapon essentially at all. Because that's what the Pact of Blades is for.</p><p></p><p>The Hexblade as written is about gaining your powers through a sentient magic weapon, but that weapon is a manifestation of the power of an entity from the Shadowfell (The Raven Queen being given as an example). It's thematically no different than gaining your powers via a magical weapon from a Fiend patron, except it's been bundled up in one choice (that of Patron) rather than two (Patron and Pact) and the Fiend version is less effective despite requiring twice as many choices to be made. So they should cut out the middleman and turn Hexblade into a proper "Shadowfell entity" Patron (perhaps even giving it a different name, if necessary), and leave the decision of how that power manifests to the Pact choice like every other Patron does.</p><p></p><p>I just pulled the 70% number out of thin air, so don't read too much into the exact percentage. The underlying point I'm trying to make is that there's nothing in the core Hexblade's Curse ability that necessitates using a weapon attack to gain its effects - you can be just as effective with it by sniping with Eldritch Blast or another attack spell/cantrip. So if the weapon-focused aspects of the Hexblade were moved out to the baseline Pact of Blades, there's no reason that they couldn't then add in additional features that are similarly just as effective for every choice of Pact instead of just focusing on weapon-attack stuff.</p><p></p><p>The end result in my mind would be that those that like the current Hexblade could get something more or less identical to it by combining the revised Pact of Blades with the revised Hexblade (getting everything they had before, plus whatever is added to the revised version of the Hexblade Patron), while giving every other Patron a more solid weapon/melee-focused Pact and also giving every Pact of Chain/Tome/etc. Warlock a version of the Hexblade Patron that is effective without having a bunch of weapon-focused features bolted on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Veltharis ap Rylix, post: 9002411, member: 66357"] I think we're talking past each other a bit. I don't think the Hexblade as a Patron option should be designed around the use of a weapon essentially at all. Because that's what the Pact of Blades is for. The Hexblade as written is about gaining your powers through a sentient magic weapon, but that weapon is a manifestation of the power of an entity from the Shadowfell (The Raven Queen being given as an example). It's thematically no different than gaining your powers via a magical weapon from a Fiend patron, except it's been bundled up in one choice (that of Patron) rather than two (Patron and Pact) and the Fiend version is less effective despite requiring twice as many choices to be made. So they should cut out the middleman and turn Hexblade into a proper "Shadowfell entity" Patron (perhaps even giving it a different name, if necessary), and leave the decision of how that power manifests to the Pact choice like every other Patron does. I just pulled the 70% number out of thin air, so don't read too much into the exact percentage. The underlying point I'm trying to make is that there's nothing in the core Hexblade's Curse ability that necessitates using a weapon attack to gain its effects - you can be just as effective with it by sniping with Eldritch Blast or another attack spell/cantrip. So if the weapon-focused aspects of the Hexblade were moved out to the baseline Pact of Blades, there's no reason that they couldn't then add in additional features that are similarly just as effective for every choice of Pact instead of just focusing on weapon-attack stuff. The end result in my mind would be that those that like the current Hexblade could get something more or less identical to it by combining the revised Pact of Blades with the revised Hexblade (getting everything they had before, plus whatever is added to the revised version of the Hexblade Patron), while giving every other Patron a more solid weapon/melee-focused Pact and also giving every Pact of Chain/Tome/etc. Warlock a version of the Hexblade Patron that is effective without having a bunch of weapon-focused features bolted on. [/QUOTE]
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