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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9104569" data-attributes="member: 6901101">I have been a player 3 times for a 1-20 campaign. For my money, after 12th level the game gets really wonky. I mean, I had to actively abstain several times from ruining the DM's encounter he built. There was one time I had to abstain from ruining his entire dungeon. And he was a very good DM! It's just the game, the spells, and the safeguards placed in get wonky. And unless you are spending hours poring over your players' character sheets and simulating how they are going to mess with your encounter, then they can mess it up pretty easily. It also didn't help we had eight players!As a DM, I have gone to 15th. It was difficult to find that balance. Often times, the encounters were either too easy, and other times, they were just right. Never had an encounter that was too difficult, but that just goes to show how many tricks a 13th or 14th level group has.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9104569, member: 6901101"] I have been a player 3 times for a 1-20 campaign. For my money, after 12th level the game gets really wonky. I mean, I had to actively abstain several times from ruining the DM's encounter he built. There was one time I had to abstain from ruining his entire dungeon. And he was a very good DM! It's just the game, the spells, and the safeguards placed in get wonky. And unless you are spending hours poring over your players' character sheets and simulating how they are going to mess with your encounter, then they can mess it up pretty easily. It also didn't help we had eight players! As a DM, I have gone to 15th. It was difficult to find that balance. Often times, the encounters were either too easy, and other times, they were just right. Never had an encounter that was too difficult, but that just goes to show how many tricks a 13th or 14th level group has. [/QUOTE]

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