JK Rowling reveals Hogwarts secret

Vocenoctum said:
Because you're making the discussion about his sexuality. It's all on your end that this discussion wouldn't be here if the detail was something else. The simple fact is, there is an assumed status quo with the books and deviations from that will raise a discussion. When she decreed what the characters were doing after the book ended, we had a similar thread.

Again, the "it's a topic because he's gay" is not the point. "If he were straight..." is where the flaw comes in, and you present the discussion as some gay rights thing. It's not about that, and it'd be the same no matter the detail really and it HAS been in the past. You stating it "a few times" doesn't make it true.

You are still not getting my point and I can't for the life of me figure out how to make this clearer to you.

Never mentioned gay rights. This was never about gay rights. Its about me understanding why this is so important, which I do not. I appears more and more to me that its about the stigma of a beloved character not being whom everyone thought he was, and that kinda makes me wonder.
 

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TheAuldGrump said:
4. This is just my opinion, feel free to continue arguing.

Is it arguing? I thought it was passing information. My demeanor is calm, kind, and as considerate as I get. Course some of the posts could be taken in a very mean tone I suppose.

Take care.
 

Harmon said:
You are still not getting my point and I can't for the life of me figure out how to make this clearer to you.

Never mentioned gay rights. This was never about gay rights. Its about me understanding why this is so important, which I do not. I appears more and more to me that its about the stigma of a beloved character not being whom everyone thought he was, and that kinda makes me wonder.

It makes you wonder, because once again you've missed it.
Why is this important? It's not, no one said it was. It is getting discussed on a forum, it is not a major arguement or anything. You're attaching stigma to the issue that none of us see, and wondering why we feel that way?

So, skip over the "why is this important" part and explain why you think we consider this important? We have the same multi-page threads about much more inane subjects than this.

(Unless you're refering to why the NEWS was interested in it, and they've already dropped the subject from what I've seen.)
 

Vocenoctum said:
It makes you wonder, because once again you've missed it.
Why is this important? It's not, no one said it was. It is getting discussed on a forum, it is not a major arguement or anything. You're attaching stigma to the issue that none of us see, and wondering why we feel that way?

So, skip over the "why is this important" part and explain why you think we consider this important? We have the same multi-page threads about much more inane subjects than this.

(Unless you're refering to why the NEWS was interested in it, and they've already dropped the subject from what I've seen.)

You seem to be getting rather upset over this. My apologizes if I have had some bit of part in that.

Honestly, I read the thread, the posts here and see people talking about this "outing" as some kind of scam/skeem by writer to bring attention, or money into her character/books life. To me a character on TV, in gaming, or in a book, whatever that is gay is just another person, their sexuality and such is meaningless to the "hay, look at me!" (which it seems in this thread is the point of the writer outing the character).

And yes, I have missed it, I suppose because no one has explained it where I understand it. A person being gay does not bring them into any different light with me, by reading this thread and the news, it seems to matter to a great many people and I would like to understand why.

Sorry for the hijack, I really thought this would be simple, but once again, like so often, I was wrong.

My apologizes.
 

Harmon said:
A person being gay does not bring them into any different light with me, by reading this thread and the news, it seems to matter to a great many people and I would like to understand why.

Honestly, Harmon, I don't think any of us can fully explain it to you without violating the rules of this forum. The fact is that Dumbledore being gay was likely to cause shock and outrage in the general public, and some people in this thread think the author mentioned his sexuality because she knew it would get this reaction.

I can't find a way to explain why the public was so shocked without getting into topics I feel would be too political for here. I guess a simple way to say it is that the majority of the Untied States isn't as open minded as me or you.
 

Harmon said:
You seem to be getting rather upset over this. My apologizes if I have had some bit of part in that.
I'm not upset, I've just been rephrasing myself for a few posts to try to find the right combination to get my point across.
 

Harmon said:
Is it arguing? I thought it was passing information. My demeanor is calm, kind, and as considerate as I get. Course some of the posts could be taken in a very mean tone I suppose.

Take care.
It certainly reads like arguing to me. Getting warnings from Mods seems to lean in that direction as well.

Or I could have the wrong room and this is Abuse. :p

The Auld Grump
 


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