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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rygar" data-source="post: 7713006" data-attributes="member: 6756765">Um...I'm going to have to disagree with you here.1.  There's pretty much no reliance on song in Dragonlance.  There's a few poems, I think maybe one scene actually has Tas singing a song, and Goldmoon uses it to tell her story once.  IIRC Tas's is the only one that's actually written out, and everyone else's is "X proceeded to sing about Y".2.  Everyone is retreating, not just Elves.  Every single race is getting it's butt kicked.  3.  In Lord of the Rings, the Elves aren't retreating, they're leaving.  In Dragonlance the Elves are driven out of their homeland by an army that is actively trying to kill them.4.  The Dragonarmies aren't led by an exiled deity.  She is very much a part of the pantheon and has a fairly high degree of support from her side of the pendeulum.5.  I'll give you Fizban as a Gandalfeque character, except Fizban is revealed to be a god and the majority of people who saw LOTR have no idea what Gandalf is because nothing is said.  I'd bet the majority of people think he is a normal mortal.6.  Sla-mori is a secret path into the fortress where they plan to free the slaves.  The Mines of Moria is a shortcut through a mountain they're forced to take.  There's no similarity here beyond the fact that they're both dungeons, but then we could level that criticism at any media that includes a dungeon.7.  There's no showdown in an abandoned Dwarven city.  If you're talking about Pax Tharkas, it's the exact opposite of abandoned.  It's also not a Dwarven city.  It's a citadel built by Elves and Dwarves as a sign of unity, and that's why Kith-Kanan the Elven king is buried beneath it.  If you're talking about Thorbardin, the showdown occurs off-camera until you get the Lost Chronicles.  If you're talking about Neraka, that is again the opposite of abandoned.8.  No mythic item shows up at a time of great darkness.  A few fairly powerful ones are located, but Dragonlance doesn't solve its problems with mythic items.  The Blue Crystal Staff is left behind in Xak Tsaroth, One of the two Dragonorbs is broken and the other one doesn't have a direct effect on the war, all of the legendary weapons are left behind (Wyrmslayer, Brightblade), and the Dragonlance doesn't actually play any part in the story aside from a couple mentions in Spring Dawning about the Dragonarmies being pushed back.  Legend of Huma, sure, that's a fair statement.  Chronicles it isn't.</blockquote>

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