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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8517180" data-attributes="member: 7808">Maybe I'm alone in this, but it bothers me a little that the Ray Fisher case was (seemingly) the one that really blew it up for Whedon.  The stuff with Trachtenburg and Carpenter was definitely covered up for years, and even the conflict with Gadot was (IMO) minimized a lot until Fisher came out and pushed his story so hard.  It bothers me because when I read Fisher's side of his story, he really comes off as a whiny, egotistical actor.  He didn't deserve the consequences he got from Whedon, but I can see a lot of other directors freaking out at Fisher for his behavior.  IMNSHO, he might have been on track to be the next Katherine Heigl.  I also can't help but think about the fact that he had no acting credits (this was his first movie), and that Whedon wasn't even director for the entire project.So my mind keeps coming back to the question: Why did the industry listen to this one no-name prima donna who only worked with Whedon for half a movie, when people were willing to ignore his systematic, years long abuse of other respected actors?  The painfully obvious answer is that they cared more because he was a man.  Maybe because he was also a minority? In any case, it doesn't sit right with me.Maybe Fisher deserves more credit than I'm giving him.  Please, don't take this to mean I think Fisher was lying or Whedon's actions with him were excusable.  And feel free to set me straight about how it happened.  Maybe his refusal to step down was stronger, maybe it's because of modern social media, maybe it was just the right time.  But something doesn't feel good about the fact that the whistleblower against Whedon's reign of misogyny was a male jerk who worked with him for a few months, rather that the otherwise (AFAIK) very nice people who were abused by him for years.It's a good thing that people listened to Fisher.  But looking at the way it went down makes me think we're still going after the squeaky wheels rather than the root causes.  And that doesn't feel like a good coda to the Me Too movement.</blockquote>

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