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<blockquote data-quote="Riastlin" data-source="post: 5612801" data-attributes="member: 94022">That's not really the point.&nbsp; The point is that somebody new to D&amp;D and playing for the first time is almost certainly going to start out in heroic tier, probably level 1.&nbsp; In fact, whenever there's a post along the lines of:&nbsp;&quot;I'm a first time DM and even though we've only played 2 sessions, its clear my players are total powergamers.&nbsp; Heck, they are only level 16, and they are making TONS of attacks for massive damage.&nbsp; My monsters don't stand a chance!&quot;&nbsp;The general response is &quot;Dude, don't start at paragon for your first campaign.&quot;&nbsp;That being said, I agree with you that WotC really, really, really, needs to provide some epic content and that it has reached a &quot;chicken or the egg&quot; point with regard to epic play.&nbsp; I just am not convinced that Neverwinter is the place to provide that content.&nbsp; Either a) the PCs will be turned to paste if they make a wrong turn or b) they'll be wondering why they're needed since there are all these super-powerful NPCs running around.&nbsp; Of course, this can often be true of FR games in general if you are not careful, but I digress.&nbsp;Again, I agree that there needs to be some epic content, but I think its more than a bit disingenuous to imply that any non-paragon/epic content that's release is a failure.&nbsp; Unfortunately, there are people starting to take this position.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Riastlin, post: 5612801, member: 94022"] That's not really the point. The point is that somebody new to D&D and playing for the first time is almost certainly going to start out in heroic tier, probably level 1. In fact, whenever there's a post along the lines of: "I'm a first time DM and even though we've only played 2 sessions, its clear my players are total powergamers. Heck, they are only level 16, and they are making TONS of attacks for massive damage. My monsters don't stand a chance!" The general response is "Dude, don't start at paragon for your first campaign." That being said, I agree with you that WotC really, really, really, needs to provide some epic content and that it has reached a "chicken or the egg" point with regard to epic play. I just am not convinced that Neverwinter is the place to provide that content. Either a) the PCs will be turned to paste if they make a wrong turn or b) they'll be wondering why they're needed since there are all these super-powerful NPCs running around. Of course, this can often be true of FR games in general if you are not careful, but I digress. Again, I agree that there needs to be some epic content, but I think its more than a bit disingenuous to imply that any non-paragon/epic content that's release is a failure. Unfortunately, there are people starting to take this position. [/QUOTE]

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