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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 6155937" data-attributes="member: 16760">Thank you for the kind words.  I'm not sure how XP even works any more, I don't see a button to do so?  Yet obviously it works for some.I can see a place for this - in certain campaigns.  I don't see why it needs to be part of all or even most campaigns, so I'm glad to see it become modular.I completely agree!  Which is why I say to drop the idea of 'Lawful Good' - then the issue won't arise, at least nearly as much.While I dislike 4e as a system, I've always quite liked its cosmology and much of its lore.  I've hated the Great Wheel intensely ever since I first came across it in the DMG appendix in 1981 or so.  Don't even get me started on Planescape.Putting the slaadi in a whirling 'Elemental Chaos' rather than the Chaotic Neutral plane of 'Limbo' (what a horrible name for it, I might add!) is just... right.  It has mythic resonance, it speaks to the gut.I mean, if you're really going to have an opposition between Order and Chaos?  It doesn't say much to have Order on the left and Chaos on the right of a Ghostly Dinner Plate.  (My group's 'affectionate' term for the Great Wheel.)  How much better to have Chaos gnawing at the outer limits of everything, seeking to overthrow the ordered cosmos.  And then, when you go even further, beyond even the reaches of the slaadi, then there lies only madness.I see the point you're making, but Asmodeus just doesn't strike me as that kind of guy.  Even Vecna doesn't, really.  Bane, sure.Though I *can* definitely see a sane, if despicable, person worshipping Asmodeus in a way I can't see it for Demogorgon.</blockquote>

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