Just saw X-Men III (Now with spoilers!)

[WayneLigon]

I have no idea why the original writers chose Phoenix (since originally there was no Phoenix Force, IIRC, and originally Jean was supposed to live, and even once it was decided she would die, originally she wasn't supposed to be resurrected); but 'phoinix' is Greek for a deep red, crimson sort of color, which certainly suits Jean in the same way Cyclops' name suits him.

Because she died in fire and was reborn in fire, as the mythical phoenix does. My God, is it so hard to make that connection?

 

[TanisFrey]

Ooh, what are the stats on a weresmurf? Err, smurfwolf. Maybe it'd be like the WoD version, except the warform is the Smurf! Three apples tall and FULL OF SMURFY RAGE!

Scurrying noises behind your back. Shadowy blue blurs out of the corner of your eye. The last sound you ever here is "la la, la-la-la-la, la, la-la, la-la!" And then it eats your head.

No, wait. La! La! Smurfuthulhu Fthagn!

Thanks for giving me a laught.

 

[Wayside]

She took the name Phoenix when she flew out of the water in her new costume after riding a space ship/shuttle down in flames and everyone thought she had to have died in the crash, or drowned. "I am Phoenix!" Or something like that with a full page splash panel as the last page in that issue, IIRC.

It makes perfect sense in that context.

Because she died in fire and was reborn in fire, as the mythical phoenix does. My God, is it so hard to make that connection?

Not if you have time and money to read the comics. I haven't seen them since I was 9, though, which was about 16 years ago. You can imagine how I'd be fuzzy on the details. Yet not so fuzzy as to forget that the Phoenix Force was a bit of a retcon (making the movie, oddly enough, more faithful to the original story). This doesn't have much to do with Klaus' tangent though.

 

[Servitor of Wrath]

a little off-topic, but...

now that I've seen X3 and X2 (in that order), should I see the first movie?

On-topic: I rather liked the movie, although I saw Jean's death coming WELL in advance.

 

[WayneLigon]

Not if you have time and money to read the comics.... This doesn't have much to do with Klaus' tangent though.

The phoenix is a common mythological symbol dealing with ressurection, which is exactly his tangent. It has nothing to do with the comics.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

now that I've seen X3 and X2 (in that order), should I see the first movie?

Yes, I think you should. The first movie is good, too.

 

[Hypersmurf]

There's a reason why the geeks refer to her as "Dark Willow". The comic version of that story was told about 15 years before Buffy did a not-so-subtle homage to that storyline.

In fact, one of the Nerd Trio complains about Willow "going all Dark Phoenix" on them, doesn't he?

-Hyp.

 

[Vigilance]

In fact, one of the Nerd Trio complains about Willow "going all Dark Phoenix" on them, doesn't he?

-Hyp.

Yeah the nerds use two (typically nerdy) referents to "dark Willow" one where they say she's "going Dark Phoenix" and another where Andrew hilariously remarks "not one of you has the metachlorians to stop Darth Rosenberg".

 

[shilsen]

Yeah the nerds use two (typically nerdy) referents to "dark Willow" one where they say she's "going Dark Phoenix" and another where Andrew hilariously remarks "not one of you has the metachlorians to stop Darth Rosenberg".

*geek on*

midichlorians

*geek off*

 

[Plane Sailing]

On-topic: I rather liked the movie, although I saw Jean's death coming WELL in advance.

I wonder how anyone could -not- see it coming

Now if you had seen Xaviers death coming well in advance I'd be impressed...