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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 8240706" data-attributes="member: 1125">um you seem to be forgetting that Ultron was suppose to be Tonys retirement plan - created as a mechanism for global defence so Tony and the others didnt have to. When that plan failed, Iron Man had to be brought back to fix the problem he had created and it is addressed that Pepper isnt happy with that decision.I came to realise just last year that the entire Avengers Arc is essentially Tony Starks story, he is the throughline who begins the story as self absorbed warmonger, does the heroes journey, then ends the arc as selfless hero. he impacts everyone and has the biggest transformation and launches the new post blip era..DC has not been able to maintain the same through line, even though it appears Snyder had intended Superman to be the central link. Marvel mastered the principal of show not tell - portraying character personality through their actions, DC hasnt even got a good handle on what their character personalities are and relies on telling the audience what they should think about their symbols instead</blockquote>