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Justice League: So, who's seen the Snyder Cut?

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I have it ready to watch, but my Pathfinder game is tonight, so I have to wait until tomorrow night.

It's doing well -- so far! -- on Rotten Tomatoes, but it'll get review-bombed at some point.

 

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Ryujin

Hero
I have it ready to watch, but my Pathfinder game is tonight, so I have to wait until tomorrow night.

It's doing well -- so far! -- on Rotten Tomatoes, but it'll get review-bombed at some point.

Judging by how my film making friends are reacting to it, you're not wrong.
 

Campbell

Legend
I loved it. There's some real genuine emotion here and quality film making. It just feels cohesive to me in a way that most comic book films do not. I'm most impressed by how much it feels like each character had a real purpose and somewhat of their own narrative trajectory.
 

Greg K

Adventurer
I have not seen it. The first of two reviews that I read stated that it was both had a cohesion and was better than the Whedon version, but needlessly too long at 4hrs. In the conclusion, the reviewer wrote, "The drawn-out nature of this relatively simple heroes-save-the-world plot often just amounts to a gratuitous exercise in style" and gave it a final grade was a C.
The other review gave it a 2 out of 4.
 

I hear the Snyder fandom giving it rave reviews; but why should they not? They lobbied (some even threatened) for it and now they feel vindicated. I'll have to wait until when I get back to the US in a few months as I don't subscribe to HBO-Max and I'm not about to subscribe just to see it. So, Looking forward to the hot take on it from Mssr. Morrus. ;)
 

Mallus

Legend
Just finished it, after watching on and off all day. Hot take: Snyder is the junk auteur du jour who made one of the best superhero movies, period. You could probably nominate some of the performances for Oscars.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
I’ve not finished watching yet, and am taking a break (its long) but right from the very first scene you can see that this is a very different movie. The long form really works to give it emotional depth and cohesion - so far its excellent even with the strange disonance of seeing many of the same scenes again but in new and more compelling context

and just for context I thought the Whedon movie was meh and I absolutely hated BvS and still think its one of the most ridiculous attempts at the Supes story ever,
 

Aeson

Adventurer
I enjoyed it. I couldn't watch all the way through in one sitting, only because I had to stop to go to work at nearly the hour mark. Once I got home I finished it. I really liked the Batman trilogy and Man of Steel a lot. Wonder Woman was good also. I didn't need Aquaman. I always saw the DC movies as actual films. The Marvel movies were just that, movies. The DC movies I could rewatch like Star Wars or Star Trek, at least the older ones. This really was an improvement over the original release. Due to its length I may be less likely to rewatch as often as some of the others.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Tonight for me! At 4 hours I’m not sure we’ll do it in one shot though. We’ll see how it goes. I’m cautiously optimistic.
 

If Steppenwolf was this much of a challenge, does the Justice League stand a chance against Darkseid?
Unless they give snyder the go ahead for a sequel, we'll never know.

I'll have to rewatch the Whedon edition, but this one really gave more depth to Cyborg, along with Flash who got a few more funny moments.

I do wonder, the original plan before Snyder stepped back, was for the movie to be in two parts and how much of the four hour version would have been in the second part.
 

Mercurius

Legend
I watched about half of it last night. So much better than the Whedon version. I still don't like the fact the villains are all CGI, but adding Darkseid makes it far more interesting. I really hope they are able to do a part 2, even if it too closely mirrors the Thanos story arc.
 

It takes the gonzo nature of the DCU that we've already seen and dials it up to 10.

Seriously, they're depicting the supes as Golden Age supers++. Aquaman falls through a building unharmed and survives full strength Superman hitting him square FFS. He's on nearly the same power level as Thor in the MCU. Cyborg is expressly stated to be able to control the worlds economy, end poverty and literally launch every single Nuke in existence with a thought.

How Batman is actually surviving anything going on around him is beyond me. Like in the earlier films, he spends most of his time avoiding getting hit (which he seems to do better than the Flash who can now move faster than light speed, and Wonder Woman who can move fast enough to watch a bullet fly past her, and deflect a full auto burst, and fly), while taking out the odd mook.

They conveniently left him out of the final fight with Steppenwolf; he had his hands full dealing with mooks (again).

He uses no stealth, just charging in everywhere. He displays no foresight (Lois just happens to turn up at the Kryptonian ship by coincidence) or detective skills, and his technological advantage is rendered moot by Cyborg (who can just remote control everything).

With the insane power level of the heroes, and Batmans ridiculous plot armor, I shudder to think what Darkseid is going to be able to do, and how even more useless Batman is going to look in comparison.

I really wish they'd gone for early Silver age power levels instead of Dragon Ball Z levels of gonzo OTT madness.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
I'm "watching" it in the background now as I do some pretty rote data entry at work. Overall, I like it so far.

Then again, I loved "Watchmen" and firmly believe that "Man of Steel" is the best Superman movie there is, mainly because, sorry to say, the other Superman movies are pretty much on par with the Batman '66 movie.
 

I just really wish they'd played to Batmans strengths (insight, planning, tactical and strategic genius, always one step ahead, detective skills, stealth) and then leave the muscle work to the actual supers. It would help him belong.

Snyder just doesn't know how to write him.
 

I really hope they are able to do a part 2
Judging by the epilogue I'd say the probability is 100%, regardless of what WB & Snyder have said to the contrary. Joker was always meant to be a stand alone film until its was so successful, but last I read there's a sequel in the works. This movie proves theirs an audience willing to pay & sit through a 4 hour super hero movie.
 

cmad1977

Hero
I’ve watched around half.
Don’t remember enough of the Whedon version to really compare the two but my feels are....

1)Snyder was given a lot of leeway to be self indulgent in his directing because this cut wouldn’t be a theatrical release. At four hours... and being only 2 in, already I can see a lot of languid takes and slow scenes. I don’t think this is bad per se. I actually think it allows more “comic book/graphic novel” shots that fit the genre. Lots of action(not punching but action) in a single slow pan, wide takes with lots of characters doing things.

2)it’s not as “punchy” as the whedon version. Fewer snappy zingers and gags.

3) I’ll probably like it well enough but I bet it would have made a better series than film.
 

cmad1977

Hero
Judging by the epilogue I'd say the probability is 100%, regardless of what WB & Snyder have said to the contrary. Joker was always meant to be a stand alone film until its was so successful, but last I read there's a sequel in the works. This movie proves theirs an audience willing to pay & sit through a 4 hour super hero movie.

Um.... this doesn’t at all prove that people will go to a theatre to watch a 4 hour movie. A lot of folks in this thread are watching this film in pieces or “in the background”.

Then there’s the theatre financials which will prevent a 4 hour movie being shown. Can’t get enough butts in seats on a daily basis for a 4 hour movie. I suppose that could change in response to the fallout from the pandemic.

And I suppose if there were an intermission(which no theatre will do now) you could get me to a 4 hour movie. I watched Lawerence of Arabia in theatres and that was amazing.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
Um.... this doesn’t at all prove that people will go to a theatre to watch a 4 hour movie. A lot of folks in this thread are watching this film in pieces or “in the background”.

Then there’s the theatre financials which will prevent a 4 hour movie being shown. Can’t get enough butts in seats on a daily basis for a 4 hour movie. I suppose that could change in response to the fallout from the pandemic.

And I suppose if there were an intermission(which no theatre will do now) you could get me to a 4 hour movie. I watched Lawerence of Arabia in theatres and that was amazing.
I agree.

I've seen precisely one four-hour movie in the theatre: Das Boot. In a repertoire theatre and those don't exist anymore. It left me wiped, drained, and disorientated.

That said, this is a good test run for a post-theatre world.
 

cmad1977

Hero
I agree.

I've seen precisely one four-hour movie in the theatre: Das Boot. In a repertoire theatre and those don't exist anymore. It left me wiped, drained, and disorientated.

That said, this is a good test run for a post-theatre world.

Edit: totally misread what you wrote. So deleted.
 

TheAlkaizer

Game Designer
I agree.

I've seen precisely one four-hour movie in the theatre: Das Boot. In a repertoire theatre and those don't exist anymore. It left me wiped, drained, and disorientated.

That said, this is a good test run for a post-theatre world.
What left you drained like that? I've never seen such a long movie in a theater. But I've seen my share of 4 hours movies at home. They're long, but by themselves they don't leave me feeling like that.
 

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