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Justice League: So, who's seen the Snyder Cut?

GreyLord

Hero
I haven't seen it, but I'm not sure this is the vision he would have come out with if he had continued it initially and was the final director for the theatrical release.

First...an R-rated Superman and Justice League movie?

I don't think that would have worked for the theaters at the time or been allowed by the distributors. I think they would have demanded a PG-13/PG-12 cut.

Secondly, as some have noted in the thread and critics, it is going to take a LOT of persuasion for a studio to release a 4 hour cut these days to the theaters. A LOT of persuasion. I don't think it would have been done. I think the movie would have been cut down to at least 3 hours, probably more to 2.5 hours.

That's a LOT of cut content.

This is the Snyder cut though, and it's the middle ground between what I'd see as his vision and what would have been released as a Director's cut...but NOT the theatrical cut.

In that way, comparing a director's cut without knowing what his theatrical cut would have appeared like probably is unfair to Whedon in the comparisons...at least to my initial thoughts without having seen the Snyder Cut yet.
 

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Eric V

Hero
My daughter noticed right away how Snyder removed the lecherous moments from Steppenwolf's dialogue with the Amazons ("You will ALL love me...") and replaced it with respect for them as warriors.

No Flash falling on WW, either.
 

Ryujin

Hero
My daughter noticed right away how Snyder removed the lecherous moments from Steppenwolf's dialogue with the Amazons ("You will ALL love me...") and replaced it with respect for them as warriors.

No Flash falling on WW, either.
Didn't that kind of get replaced with the Amazons doing sexy fighting poses though? So I've been told.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
My daughter noticed right away how Snyder removed the lecherous moments from Steppenwolf's dialogue with the Amazons ("You will ALL love me...") and replaced it with respect for them as warriors.

No Flash falling on WW, either.
Yeah there was also the line where Martha Kent describes Lois as a “Thirsty young woman” (rather than Hungry) which was deleted
 

My daughter noticed right away how Snyder removed the lecherous moments from Steppenwolf's dialogue with the Amazons ("You will ALL love me...") and replaced it with respect for them as warriors.

No Flash falling on WW, either.
Snyder also removed Aquaman's flirting with her,while sitting on the lasso of truth. In fact the interactions between the two was redone better.

EDIT: I'll also point out that when Whedon had the Flash falling on WW, Gal refuse and so they brought in a body double.
 


Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Didn't that kind of get replaced with the Amazons doing sexy fighting poses though? So I've been told.
No? The Amazons still wear boob-form armour but other than that I cant recall any gratuitousness in the Amazon stances
 
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embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
Snyder also removed Aquaman's flirting with her,while sitting on the lasso of truth. In fact the interactions between the two was redone better.

EDIT: I'll also point out that when Whedon had the Flash falling on WW, Gal refuse and so they brought in a body double.
Snyder also got rid up Whedon's upskirting.
 

WayneLigon

Adventurer
On the whole I liked the Whedon version better, but that was still a movie barely able to hold it's head above water. This just seems like a weird choice to even release.
 

John R Davis

Explorer
On the whole I liked the Whedon version better, but that was still a movie barely able to hold it's head above water. This just seems like a weird choice to even release.
Anyone have an idea how much budget was used to make the Snyder cut? Very different to the original. Can't believe how much new stuff there was
 


Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Yeah, there's only about 4-5 minutes of newly shot footage. The rest of it was original footage shot by Snyder that Joss Whedon didn't use or reshot himself. The Whedon JL film, only 30% of it is Snyder's footage.
 

Mistwell

Legend
I agree.

I've seen precisely one four-hour movie in the theatre: Das Boot. In a repertoire theatre and those don't exist anymore. It left me wiped, drained, and disorientated.

That said, this is a good test run for a post-theatre world.
I saw all three Lord of the Rings movies, in their directors cut version, in a row, in a theater. It was epic. My butt was sore from sitting by the end.
 

Mistwell

Legend
So my overwhelming feeling after watching that film is one I get when finishing a great book series — that sense of loss that you’re at the end and you won’t see more of these characters. That’s what happens when you get to know characters and they resonate with you emotionally, like when Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings ended. I didn’t feel that at all after the Whedon version.
I love that feeling!
 


So, the family spent a big chunk of Saturday watching it. It was me (uber geek), 15 year old son (who loves MCU, hates DC movies) and my wife ( general fan of superhero movies). The wife and I also generally don't like Snyder's style. But I have read for years from people who love him that his movies are big and grand and are like Operas. So, I cleared my mind and went into the movie with that expectation.
Sidenote-- I didn't think the original was bad just very forgettable.

We all enjoyed the Snyder cut. As others have said, I don't think this 4 hour monster would ever be a theatrical cut, but it was good. If you can get in synch with his style it is a sweeping epic.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
So, the family spent a big chunk of Saturday watching it. It was me (uber geek), 15 year old son (who loves MCU, hates DC movies) and my wife ( general fan of superhero movies). The wife and I also generally don't like Snyder's style. But I have read for years from people who love him that his movies are big and grand and are like Operas. So, I cleared my mind and went into the movie with that expectation.
Sidenote-- I didn't think the original was bad just very forgettable.

We all enjoyed the Snyder cut. As others have said, I don't think this 4 hour monster would ever be a theatrical cut, but it was good. If you can get in synch with his style it is a sweeping epic.
That's why it meshes with Snyder.

DC superheroes are gods. It's the constant refrain. Look at titles like Kingdom Come or Justice or at heroes like Wonder Woman and Shazam. There is a grand scale to it that Marvel heroes don't seem to have.

This isn't to say that Marvel is inferior in any way. Just that the tone and scale of DC is inherently different. And that difference lends itself to a "serious" director like Snyder.

My wife did think a lot of the stuff is ridiculous. You could get good and drunk if you took a belt of whiskey every time someone smelled a Mother Box. But much of the ridiculosity stems from the psychedelic psyche of Jack Kirby.
 

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