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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snoweel" data-source="post: 4486078" data-attributes="member: 4453">Sure.But when you get down to it, if the pirates' levels are far enough below that of the PC's, then there may as well be thousands of them - they will not be a challenge.When you build your encounters for your game you can do it however you want, as I stated earlier.If you want the pirates to be a combat challenge they need to be able to hit your PCs. That requires their levels be within a certain range of the player characters (no more than 4 below according to the DMG).Or you could decide that such pirates are no combat threat, in which case they don't need levels - and therefore don't have levels - and the battle between your PCs and the pirate armada becomes a skill challenge, or an exercise in narration.It's really up to you. DMG chapters 4 and 5 are your friends. You can build an encounter as challenging as you need it to be.4e is a lot more versatile than you give it credit for. I get paid to play wargames. Damned if I'm going to do it in my spare time.</blockquote>