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Justifying high level 'guards', 'pirates', 'soldiers', 'assassins', etc.
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<blockquote data-quote="Snoweel" data-source="post: 4486733" data-attributes="member: 4453"><p>No but you <strong>do</strong> man. You need to play D&D exactly the way I tell you to.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok I'll come clean.. it's what I know. Am I right in assuming you think I'm wrong?</p><p></p><p>The poster in question has made his views on 4e very clear.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My analysis in this thread has been first rate. Top notch, even.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You and me both mate, but internal security is more of a political issue than military and we're not at liberty to discuss politics here. So we won't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bear in mind that a level 16 minion is roughly equal to a level 8 standard monster (to use the official terminology). Just more suitable for use against a 20th level party. They are essentially the same creature, expresed in slightly different mechanics.</p><p></p><p>For a game where PC careers now span 30 levels, this isn't such a stretch unless your conception of levels is rooted in some previous edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What level do you feel a 20th level character under 3.5e would translate to under 4e?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not for you maybe but be careful thinking you can speak for everybody.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you concede that NPC level is directly tied to PC level?</p><p></p><p>That without the existence of PCs, NPCs have no need for levels?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's quite a leap from 4th to 15th level. Such a leap that this example could be considered flippant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who here has described a gameworld that "warps and twists from one day to the next"?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As opposed to how I allegedly think you should play, in a gameworld with absolutely no consistency or internal logic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snoweel, post: 4486733, member: 4453"] No but you [b]do[/b] man. You need to play D&D exactly the way I tell you to. :confused: Ok I'll come clean.. it's what I know. Am I right in assuming you think I'm wrong? The poster in question has made his views on 4e very clear. My analysis in this thread has been first rate. Top notch, even. You and me both mate, but internal security is more of a political issue than military and we're not at liberty to discuss politics here. So we won't. Bear in mind that a level 16 minion is roughly equal to a level 8 standard monster (to use the official terminology). Just more suitable for use against a 20th level party. They are essentially the same creature, expresed in slightly different mechanics. For a game where PC careers now span 30 levels, this isn't such a stretch unless your conception of levels is rooted in some previous edition. What level do you feel a 20th level character under 3.5e would translate to under 4e? Not for you maybe but be careful thinking you can speak for everybody. So you concede that NPC level is directly tied to PC level? That without the existence of PCs, NPCs have no need for levels? That's quite a leap from 4th to 15th level. Such a leap that this example could be considered flippant. Who here has described a gameworld that "warps and twists from one day to the next"? As opposed to how I allegedly think you should play, in a gameworld with absolutely no consistency or internal logic? [/QUOTE]
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