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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4488423" data-attributes="member: 1003">Yeah, I get that. I know what you're trying to accomplish.There isn't an ounce of difference between what you're doing and E6 except number inflation. You're just giving both sides illusory +'s to their d20 role. Why bother with the sleigh of hand?No, "sacrifice of ingame consistency to further story development" is the plain meaning of the word. Whether or no you think that's derogatory isn't my concern.Just for the record, I think narrativist play is "not my cup o' tea", but that's a different thing than "I think people who play that way are my inferiors."So does everyone else is 4E.  Consistent ingame explanations for HP and dmg are flat out against the rules.  The distinguishing characteristic is that simulationists recognize rules like "city guards are between 1st and 4th level" and narrativists don't. For a narrativist a city guard is whatever level he needs to be to advance the plot (within reason).*********However, we have gotten very far afield.  My main point of argument is that if you give a player a +1 to attack, it should mean something.  In all previous editions of D&D it meant (1) old foes were more easily bested and (2) new more powerful foes can be challenged.  However by simply scaling old foes up with player advancement (even if at "a reduced scale") you are taking away reward number one.  To quote S'mon, "Where's the cookie?"If you feel the urge (as a DM) to give players a +1 attack, and then immediately give all their foes a +1 to all defenses to compensate, you should probably just not give out the +1 attack in the first place.  It's fools' gold.  Frankly I would find it a bit insulting.If you want to play a campaign where city guards and pirates are threats at 16th level that's perfectly fine, but it's an illusory reward to give +'s with one hand that you're simply going to take them back with the other.  Just be up front with the players about what kind of campaign you want to run.Otherwise you might as well play a version of D&D that grants +11 per level because that's better than +1/2 per level.</blockquote>

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