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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 4496358" data-attributes="member: 42582">I think that this is right to an extent - you can combine the DMG and the PHB DCs to extrapolate from the page 42 DCs back to particular flavour descriptions stated in the PHB.But I also think that there is a degree of tension between the two books in their approaches to skills. And in his discussion of Blue Slime in the Dragon article on writing the DMG, James Wyatt says some stuff which is perhaps closer to the sort of approach I am defending the coherence of.</blockquote>