Kalamar - first published 4e setting?!?

[GeorgeFields]

There will be a Print On Demand version on LULU.com in the near future. Probably before the end of next week, but I can't swear to that.

We already have several books up on LULU.

I've gotten two books from LuLu, and they've both been top notch as far as physical quality. I've got two more to get in the near future, three if I decide to get a dead tree version of this. I need to decide if I want to lug around a 500 page Kalamar book or not.

 

[cildarith]

I'm a little concerned how the Atlas portion will look in grayscale.

 

[GeorgeFields]

I just did some basic math at LuLu.

The Kalamar Player's Guide to the Sovereign Lands is $39.99 for 275 pages. (hardcover)
Greed & Glory is $18.99 for 81 pages.(softcover)
Dijishy is $15.99 for 65 pages. (softcover)
Divine Masters is $29.99 for 259 pages. (softcover)

Is that going to put this in the $75 - $80 range for 500 pages?

 

[Treebore]

Y'know, Palladium very nearly buried WotC for less than this, because of The Primal Order.

*deleted* NVM, too likely to start up another Paladium board war.

 

[The Little Raven]

I just did some basic math at LuLu.

The Kalamar Player's Guide to the Sovereign Lands is $39.99 for 275 pages. (hardcover)
Greed & Glory is $18.99 for 81 pages.(softcover)
Dijishy is $15.99 for 65 pages. (softcover)
Divine Masters is $29.99 for 259 pages. (softcover)

Is that going to put this in the $75 - $80 range for 500 pages?

Well, LULU.COM's pricing puts a (8" x 11") 500 page perfect bound softcover at roughly $79 to print one ($72 to print, at the highest volume discount), which would put the price even higher if they wanted to make any profit off of it.

Unless they work some kind of magic, I foresee this book's price being higher than $80.

 

[The Little Raven]

*deleted* NVM, too likely to start up another Paladium board war.

I'm not interested in a Palladium board war. I was just pointing out that Palladium sued WotC for referencing their system and providing a little conversion material, and K&Co is putting D&D's name on the cover of their book and using game mechanics. If Palladium was able to maintain a suit for a long enough period of time to nearly ruin WotC, then WotC could probably do the same to K&CO much more easily. I'm just suggesting that they be careful, because the 800-lb. gorilla doesn't necessarily have to win a court case in order to achieve their objective.

 

[Rakor]

I'm sorry, that was my bad. (seemingly) Randomly being asked for personal information on the internet rubs me the wrong way. I overreacted and then forgot that a dozen posts after mine doesn't mean that a reasonable amount of time has passed since I posted. I'm looking forward to reading up on Kalamar.

 

[The Little Raven]

Well, LULU.COM's pricing puts a (8" x 11") 500 page perfect bound softcover at roughly $79 to print one ($72 to print, at the highest volume discount), which would put the price even higher if they wanted to make any profit off of it.

Unless they work some kind of magic, I foresee this book's price being higher than $80.

To be clear, this is for full color.

A B&W book of the same size would be roughly $15 to print ($12 at highest volume discount).

 

[tenkar]

Y'know, Palladium very nearly buried WotC for less than this, because of The Primal Order.

KenzerCo went this route back when 2E was out. There were no repercussions. I think they know what they are doing at this point. They aren't the first to avoid the GSL and assuredly will not be the last.

 

[Alzrius]

I'm still a bit confused over how Kenzer can do this at all. The GSL seems to forbid continuing to sell 3.5 product lines once one of the books goes 4E. Likewise, it forbids selling GSL products before 10/01/08.

Since Kenzer's special license(s) with WotC ended last November, don't they have to use the GSL like everyone else? Or are they using the "copyright lets us do it" stance? Or is there just something I'm missing?