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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 1867682" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Badger, I did some calculating of Crafting items, and here's what I discovered. Based on rolls I made, a standard chain shirt (cost 1000 sp, craft DC 14) would take you 4 weeks to make. To make that chain shirt out of mithril (and thus automatically masterwork) would cost an additional 10,000 silver and have a new DC of 20 to craft it. With a +9 to your Craft, you'd be successful for a week's work on an 11 or higher, you'd make no progress on a 7 to 10, and you'd lose half your raw materials on a 6 or less. If we were to average your rolls when you were successful (roll of 16 + 9 skill bonus = 25) multiplied by the DC of 20 equals 500 progress points for the week. Thus you'd need 20 weeks of successful work (10,000 divided by 500) to make the mithril portion of the chain shirt. Since you're only successful 50% of the time, that makes it a total of 40 weeks to make the mithril portion, plus 4 for the chain shirt portion, means 44 weeks all told for the entire shirt.</p><p></p><p>As you also average a loss of materials approximately half the time you make no progress (20 weeks worth), that's 10 weeks you have to pay half the cost of raw materials again. As raw materials cost you 1/3rd of the total cost (1100gp), that means base cost of raw materials is 366gp. Half of that is 183gp. Thus your total cost were you to try to make the mithril chain shirt yourself is 366gp + (183gp x 10 weeks) or a total of 2196gp. Almost twice as much as if you were to buy it off the shelf, and you wouldn't have spent 44 weeks to do it.</p><p></p><p>(Doing these calculations gives me a better understanding why you don't find mithril or adamantine items all over the place. LOL. You have to be a MASTER craftsman to make the time and cost not be negligble.)</p><p></p><p>So Badger, I guess what it comes down to is that as you have written down spending time crafting a Hat of Disguise, Cloak of Restistance, 4 scrolls and masterwork waraxe, crossbow, chain shirt, and shield... it's just not feasible to make the shield and chain shirt made from mithril. In fact, crafting all those items yourself (especially the 4 masterwork weapons/armor/shield) is taking up weeks upon weeks of your time as it is.</p><p></p><p>So I'll allow you to craft the Hat, Cloak, & 4 scrolls (and thus get them for 50% of their book prices)... although you'll also need to buy at full price a scroll of Disguise Self to use to make the Hat of Disguise (since Disguise Self is not on your spell list). I'll also let you make the masterwork waraxe and masterwork large steel shield youself (thuis costing 1/3rd the base price of each). But the masterwork crossbow and masterwork chain shirt will need to be bought at full list price.</p><p></p><p>When you re-do your inventory list, please also put next to the items their cost in gold pieces so I'll be able to more easily total them up to make sure you aren't over 5,400gp. Thanx Badger!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 1867682, member: 7006"] Badger, I did some calculating of Crafting items, and here's what I discovered. Based on rolls I made, a standard chain shirt (cost 1000 sp, craft DC 14) would take you 4 weeks to make. To make that chain shirt out of mithril (and thus automatically masterwork) would cost an additional 10,000 silver and have a new DC of 20 to craft it. With a +9 to your Craft, you'd be successful for a week's work on an 11 or higher, you'd make no progress on a 7 to 10, and you'd lose half your raw materials on a 6 or less. If we were to average your rolls when you were successful (roll of 16 + 9 skill bonus = 25) multiplied by the DC of 20 equals 500 progress points for the week. Thus you'd need 20 weeks of successful work (10,000 divided by 500) to make the mithril portion of the chain shirt. Since you're only successful 50% of the time, that makes it a total of 40 weeks to make the mithril portion, plus 4 for the chain shirt portion, means 44 weeks all told for the entire shirt. As you also average a loss of materials approximately half the time you make no progress (20 weeks worth), that's 10 weeks you have to pay half the cost of raw materials again. As raw materials cost you 1/3rd of the total cost (1100gp), that means base cost of raw materials is 366gp. Half of that is 183gp. Thus your total cost were you to try to make the mithril chain shirt yourself is 366gp + (183gp x 10 weeks) or a total of 2196gp. Almost twice as much as if you were to buy it off the shelf, and you wouldn't have spent 44 weeks to do it. (Doing these calculations gives me a better understanding why you don't find mithril or adamantine items all over the place. LOL. You have to be a MASTER craftsman to make the time and cost not be negligble.) So Badger, I guess what it comes down to is that as you have written down spending time crafting a Hat of Disguise, Cloak of Restistance, 4 scrolls and masterwork waraxe, crossbow, chain shirt, and shield... it's just not feasible to make the shield and chain shirt made from mithril. In fact, crafting all those items yourself (especially the 4 masterwork weapons/armor/shield) is taking up weeks upon weeks of your time as it is. So I'll allow you to craft the Hat, Cloak, & 4 scrolls (and thus get them for 50% of their book prices)... although you'll also need to buy at full price a scroll of Disguise Self to use to make the Hat of Disguise (since Disguise Self is not on your spell list). I'll also let you make the masterwork waraxe and masterwork large steel shield youself (thuis costing 1/3rd the base price of each). But the masterwork crossbow and masterwork chain shirt will need to be bought at full list price. When you re-do your inventory list, please also put next to the items their cost in gold pieces so I'll be able to more easily total them up to make sure you aren't over 5,400gp. Thanx Badger! [/QUOTE]
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