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<blockquote data-quote="Glade Riven" data-source="post: 8561037" data-attributes="member: 86468"><p>Funny you say that...I actually got a response from Brian Bauman regarding it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's compare and contrast Kingmaker's development vs. Grimmerspace, since both projects were launched around the same time. Grimmerspace is being led by one of the developers of Starfinder under an "indie" label. It made $188k out of a goal of $10k. They are also a bit behind, but there are key differences between how Paizo and how Iron GM Games is handling it. Iron GM makes monthly updates, interacts with their backers, and has actually delivered some of their content (a bestiary and a small adventure).</p><p></p><p>To contrast, Kingmaker made $25,000,000. The original timetable of a year to delivery was, honestly, never realistic because I don't think they realized how much stuff Owl Cat Games added. Kingmaker did have front loaded Pathfinder 1e content as a backer bonus, but the cost on that was negligible since it was all PDFs of older content. There were times when it was almost 3 months between updates.</p><p></p><p>Then there was the news that it was being delayed until April 2022 - which was first announced behind a paywall at Paizocon 2021 (late May). The delay was annoying, but <em>hiding it behind a paywall</em> was infuriating. We didn't get an official announcement until <em>over a month later. </em>At least this time they didn't hide the delay behind a paywall, but all I've gotten as a backer are excuses, a couple of full page spread previews, and a photo of my pawns sitting in a warehouse. PDFs aren't scheduled to be released until the physicals are being sent out, and it seems the books are stuck in editing hell right now.</p><p></p><p>If it were just delays, that'd be one thing, but it's also how they've handled backers through the whole process. I'm allowed to be angry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glade Riven, post: 8561037, member: 86468"] Funny you say that...I actually got a response from Brian Bauman regarding it. Let's compare and contrast Kingmaker's development vs. Grimmerspace, since both projects were launched around the same time. Grimmerspace is being led by one of the developers of Starfinder under an "indie" label. It made $188k out of a goal of $10k. They are also a bit behind, but there are key differences between how Paizo and how Iron GM Games is handling it. Iron GM makes monthly updates, interacts with their backers, and has actually delivered some of their content (a bestiary and a small adventure). To contrast, Kingmaker made $25,000,000. The original timetable of a year to delivery was, honestly, never realistic because I don't think they realized how much stuff Owl Cat Games added. Kingmaker did have front loaded Pathfinder 1e content as a backer bonus, but the cost on that was negligible since it was all PDFs of older content. There were times when it was almost 3 months between updates. Then there was the news that it was being delayed until April 2022 - which was first announced behind a paywall at Paizocon 2021 (late May). The delay was annoying, but [I]hiding it behind a paywall[/I] was infuriating. We didn't get an official announcement until [I]over a month later. [/I]At least this time they didn't hide the delay behind a paywall, but all I've gotten as a backer are excuses, a couple of full page spread previews, and a photo of my pawns sitting in a warehouse. PDFs aren't scheduled to be released until the physicals are being sent out, and it seems the books are stuck in editing hell right now. If it were just delays, that'd be one thing, but it's also how they've handled backers through the whole process. I'm allowed to be angry. [/QUOTE]
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