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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 8929880" data-attributes="member: 42040">First, thank you for posting the summary of this video.I'm going to really attempt a measured response to this: I don't buy it. I think it's corporate spin and putting out Kyle on a goodwill tour of the community. Instead of apologizing, WotC is gaslighting the community: &quot;We weren't really going to do that. Everything you heard about is lies. This was our plan all along.&quot; The thing is ... we know. We know they were planning an awful arrangement with publishers and that awful arrangement was sent out. Do we think companies like Kobold Press would distance their relationship with WotC if OGL 1.1 wasn't what they were sent? Do we think Cynthia Williams was joking when she said she thought the gaming community was &quot;under-monetized?&quot; These are patterns of behavior.Concerning &quot;the community had no impact on our decisions because we were already going to do it&quot; - yeah, I don't believe that either. They had very public half-steps back that they promoted, scrambling for responses a week later. They were obviously trying to respond to the bad publicity and a deteriorating relationship with fans.If anything, this video makes me more angry about the whole situation. And I would hope content creators shut down this mouthpiece for corporate lies by not putting Kyle on their channel in the future. WotC is using the community to spread obvious misinformation about their underhanded and anti-fan decisions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 8929880, member: 42040"] First, thank you for posting the summary of this video. I'm going to really attempt a measured response to this: I don't buy it. I think it's corporate spin and putting out Kyle on a goodwill tour of the community. Instead of apologizing, WotC is gaslighting the community: "We weren't really going to do that. Everything you heard about is lies. This was our plan all along." The thing is ... we know. We know they were planning an awful arrangement with publishers and that awful arrangement was sent out. Do we think companies like Kobold Press would distance their relationship with WotC if OGL 1.1 wasn't what they were sent? Do we think Cynthia Williams was joking when she said she thought the gaming community was "under-monetized?" These are patterns of behavior. Concerning "the community had no impact on our decisions because we were already going to do it" - yeah, I don't believe that either. They had very public half-steps back that they promoted, scrambling for responses a week later. They were obviously trying to respond to the bad publicity and a deteriorating relationship with fans. If anything, this video makes me more angry about the whole situation. And I would hope content creators shut down this mouthpiece for corporate lies by not putting Kyle on their channel in the future. WotC is using the community to spread obvious misinformation about their underhanded and anti-fan decisions. [/QUOTE]

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