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Kyle Brink (D&D Exec Producer) On OGL Controversy & One D&D (Summary)
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<blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 8931125" data-attributes="member: 3987"><p>Seen a section of this interview taken out of context online...</p><p></p><p>That <strong>Kyle Brink</strong> said</p><p></p><p> <em><strong>"I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that d&d players were all you know white dudes in a basement which is which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so it's in my viewpoint honestly guys like me you can't can't leave soon enough for this Hobby"</strong></em></p><p></p><p>Implying that he (and therefore WotC) think CIS white guys should leave the hobby.</p><p></p><p>I think it is important to see it in context.</p><p></p><p>Where as if you put it in context he is answering a question about leadership positions at WotC, and the fact they are still dominated by CIS white men, and he is looking forward to more diverse talent moving up through the ranks to replace him.</p><p></p><p>Here's the context I've cleaned up the transcript a little. Happens from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPDc3DVHwKo&t=2822s" target="_blank">47:02 in the video</a>.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jeremy Cobb: </strong>In terms of hiring diversity this actually speaks to one thing that Orion Black said in their statements. Which is that they believed that they were essentially a diversity hire. Which look we're all here we're all in favor of diversity but ultimately I think what makes the difference in a company like this is if you have minority people in positions of power and while I'm sure that there have been numerous hirings of people from a variety of different minorities at least in the case of racial minorities I've met a number of people who including yourself who are fairly high up in D&D and I think every single one of them has been white and also I think all of them have been CIS men.</p><p></p><p>Not to say that everybody there is a CIS man but it seems to be consistently that we have white CIS men still at the top of these groups can you identify any specific positions of like significant power um because you've got you got I mean even on the D&D team you still got you've still got Jeremy Crawford, you still got uh Mike Merles, and so forth what can you identify any specific positions that have like higher ranking positions that have been filled by people of say racially diverse backgrounds?</p><p></p><p><strong>Kyle Brink:</strong> I think if you look at the the credits of our books you'll see some lead designers there who are are not CIS men you will also see a lot of primary authors on sources. These are folks who are coming up through the ranks and proving themselves and earning their respect not because of who they are but because of how they are as professionals. Which is the best kind of respect, right? You know you don't want to be respected because you're the diversity hire you want to be respected because you're awesome at your job and that's and that's happening more and more.</p><p></p><p>This you know look guys like me we're we're leaving the workforce, to be blunt and we're also not this is not the face of the hobby anymore. I'm not the majority of this hobby anymore and I and so it's important to me that my team of creators look like my players, and have the lived experience that my players do, and<em> I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that d&d players were all you know white dudes in a basement um which is which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so it's in my viewpoint honestly guys like me you can't can't leave soon enough for this Hobby</em> and we owe you good games we owe you good products and so we need to make sure that everybody working on it is real good at it, and that means not just hiring but also developing right when we bring people in who are good we need to empower them give them more room to run. Give them guidance on what we learned when we were creating stuff so that they can create great stuff too and then you know I always hire people smarter than me so that I can get out of their way that's my Approach uh and so as as long as we stay on this trajectory yeah this is this is the face of d d will literally change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagpuss, post: 8931125, member: 3987"] Seen a section of this interview taken out of context online... That [B]Kyle Brink[/B] said [I][B]"I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that d&d players were all you know white dudes in a basement which is which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so it's in my viewpoint honestly guys like me you can't can't leave soon enough for this Hobby"[/B][/I] Implying that he (and therefore WotC) think CIS white guys should leave the hobby. I think it is important to see it in context. Where as if you put it in context he is answering a question about leadership positions at WotC, and the fact they are still dominated by CIS white men, and he is looking forward to more diverse talent moving up through the ranks to replace him. Here's the context I've cleaned up the transcript a little. Happens from [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPDc3DVHwKo&t=2822s']47:02 in the video[/URL]. [B]Jeremy Cobb: [/B]In terms of hiring diversity this actually speaks to one thing that Orion Black said in their statements. Which is that they believed that they were essentially a diversity hire. Which look we're all here we're all in favor of diversity but ultimately I think what makes the difference in a company like this is if you have minority people in positions of power and while I'm sure that there have been numerous hirings of people from a variety of different minorities at least in the case of racial minorities I've met a number of people who including yourself who are fairly high up in D&D and I think every single one of them has been white and also I think all of them have been CIS men. Not to say that everybody there is a CIS man but it seems to be consistently that we have white CIS men still at the top of these groups can you identify any specific positions of like significant power um because you've got you got I mean even on the D&D team you still got you've still got Jeremy Crawford, you still got uh Mike Merles, and so forth what can you identify any specific positions that have like higher ranking positions that have been filled by people of say racially diverse backgrounds? [B]Kyle Brink:[/B] I think if you look at the the credits of our books you'll see some lead designers there who are are not CIS men you will also see a lot of primary authors on sources. These are folks who are coming up through the ranks and proving themselves and earning their respect not because of who they are but because of how they are as professionals. Which is the best kind of respect, right? You know you don't want to be respected because you're the diversity hire you want to be respected because you're awesome at your job and that's and that's happening more and more. This you know look guys like me we're we're leaving the workforce, to be blunt and we're also not this is not the face of the hobby anymore. I'm not the majority of this hobby anymore and I and so it's important to me that my team of creators look like my players, and have the lived experience that my players do, and[I] I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that d&d players were all you know white dudes in a basement um which is which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so it's in my viewpoint honestly guys like me you can't can't leave soon enough for this Hobby[/I] and we owe you good games we owe you good products and so we need to make sure that everybody working on it is real good at it, and that means not just hiring but also developing right when we bring people in who are good we need to empower them give them more room to run. Give them guidance on what we learned when we were creating stuff so that they can create great stuff too and then you know I always hire people smarter than me so that I can get out of their way that's my Approach uh and so as as long as we stay on this trajectory yeah this is this is the face of d d will literally change. [/QUOTE]
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