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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 8934017" data-attributes="member: 8461">That sword cuts both ways. You characterizing my post that way doesn't mean that your characterization is correct.I think that your observation is wrong, in that regard. Likewise, saying &quot;you're getting defensive&quot; is the same personal attack that you're saying not to engage in. Perhaps it would be better if you engaged in the substance of the debate rather than observations about the people in it.I am taking in what they're saying, I'm just disagreeing. Personally, I don't find their positions very compelling, because so far almost no one is speaking to the topic in question, which is why they think Macris/Yiannopoulos is culpable for greater harm than Williams is in her capacity as having worked for Big Tobacco.If you want to bring the discussion back around to something more productive, why not speak to that issue?Again, I bear no weapons. Quite the opposite, I'm waiting for other people to put down there's and use reason rather than digressions and <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/kyle-brink-d-d-exec-producer-on-ogl-controversy-one-d-d-summary.695136/post-8933836" target="_blank">snark</a> (&quot;Must be nice to pass judgement on millions of people&quot;).Perhaps you should be directing your message of calming down to someone else in this thread?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 8934017, member: 8461"] That sword cuts both ways. You characterizing my post that way doesn't mean that your characterization is correct. I think that your observation is wrong, in that regard. Likewise, saying "you're getting defensive" is the same personal attack that you're saying not to engage in. Perhaps it would be better if you engaged in the substance of the debate rather than observations about the people in it. I am taking in what they're saying, I'm just disagreeing. Personally, I don't find their positions very compelling, because so far almost no one is speaking to the topic in question, which is [i]why[/i] they think Macris/Yiannopoulos is culpable for greater harm than Williams is in her capacity as having worked for Big Tobacco. If you want to bring the discussion back around to something more productive, why not speak to that issue? Again, I bear no weapons. Quite the opposite, I'm waiting for other people to put down there's and use reason rather than digressions and [url=https://www.enworld.org/threads/kyle-brink-d-d-exec-producer-on-ogl-controversy-one-d-d-summary.695136/post-8933836]snark[/url] ("Must be nice to pass judgement on millions of people"). Perhaps you should be directing your message of calming down to someone else in this thread? [/QUOTE]

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