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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sage Genesis" data-source="post: 6249223" data-attributes="member: 6706099">No, that is not what I'm saying. I was using hyperbole to show how your words came across to me. Like, holding up a mirror to you. If you then criticize me for showing you something "rather extreme", well...that's kinda what I saw. That is the point.  I have read every Next-related L&L, as well as watched every livestream of the devs, read their other articles, etc. I have also run several playtest sessions, using the playtest rules in different stages of the process. In short, I have been following this very closely for the past two years. You make it sound like I walked into this expecting snakes. I would like to correct you on that account: I have consistently found snakes over the past two years, even where I expected to find none. Now I'm pointing at the forest and telling you, "dude there's totally snakes in there", and you think that I am only saying so because of some kind of prejudice. It's experience. For example Mearls dismissed Warlord healing because it can't cause a severed hand to grow back on, a classic piece of edition war rhetoric. (Conveniently ignoring that normal sleep can't cause limb regeneration either, yet it's still allowed to restore hp.) They also dismissed the people who clamored for tighter math like 4e had, and then found themselves flabbergasted that a throwaway encounter with a few ghouls could so savagely annihilate their party on a livestream.This is all stuff you possibly didn't or couldn't know, and I don't begrudge you for it. But my opinions are colored by my past experiences with this process. And my past experiences are not very good. Yes, I want him to "show me the money" by this stage. It's been a long, strange trip and we have way too little to show for it. If the final game is really good I will happily play it, I have zero judgment on the final product yet. It's just at this point where I think, "come on man, stop telling me how great your modularity is and start showing me some modularity". The ability to make up my own backgrounds hardly qualifies.All this is somewhat besides the point though. The original issue was whether or not 3e/4e makes players serve them or vice versa. I'm still unconvinced.Because I like to think ENWorld is not an echo chamber and I am allowed to discuss an article even if I don't like the state of Next as it currently stands.</blockquote>

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