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<blockquote data-quote="Sage Genesis" data-source="post: 6249336" data-attributes="member: 6706099"><p>As it turns out, "ages" is about 15 minutes.</p><p></p><p>If you go here and download the podcast:</p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4pod/20130306" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4pod/20130306</a></p><p></p><p>Then skip ahead to about 30:12 to 31:40 or so.</p><p></p><p>The context and summary is that they're discussing absorbing the Warlord into the Fighter, albeit with no healing abilities because the captain of the guard is not a "healer". They discuss William Wallace as a good example of a Warlord who could maybe inspire people but not regrow severed or broken limbs. (In a somewhat joking fashion.)</p><p></p><p>The problem being, however, that in 4e hit point damage is not just injuries but explicitly also factors in morale. There is no real way to lose your hand in the first place in 4e so the whole argument is kind of silly. And even if you did, you'd need a specific Ritual (the exact name of which escapes me at the moment) to regrow it rather than anything else. While the Warlord can heal your <em>hit points</em> with a class feature, he can't restore your lost arm. This is true... but it's also true for the Cleric, the Bard, etc. As such it's an utterly spurious reasoning to withhold hitpoint-healing from the Warlord (or the Warlord-style equivalent).</p><p></p><p>They do later go on to say that people who want a 4e Warlord character should be able to do so... but months afterwards they clarified on twitter that you'd get it through the College of Valor Bard. Again, healing reserved for just the magic people because hands can't be shouted back on. And you only need to check the latest playtest package to see that this is true, Fighters have zero Warlord traits while Valorous Bards are the closest thing in the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The podcast I linked above has a talk with Mike Mearls, Chris Dupuis, and Rodney Thompson. So yeah I kinda did hear it from people high up in the creative team.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As I told Mercurius earlier, I have paid very close attention to the development of Next. It's starting to dawn on me that perhaps I'm in a minority position here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sage Genesis, post: 6249336, member: 6706099"] As it turns out, "ages" is about 15 minutes. If you go here and download the podcast: [URL]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4pod/20130306[/URL] Then skip ahead to about 30:12 to 31:40 or so. The context and summary is that they're discussing absorbing the Warlord into the Fighter, albeit with no healing abilities because the captain of the guard is not a "healer". They discuss William Wallace as a good example of a Warlord who could maybe inspire people but not regrow severed or broken limbs. (In a somewhat joking fashion.) The problem being, however, that in 4e hit point damage is not just injuries but explicitly also factors in morale. There is no real way to lose your hand in the first place in 4e so the whole argument is kind of silly. And even if you did, you'd need a specific Ritual (the exact name of which escapes me at the moment) to regrow it rather than anything else. While the Warlord can heal your [I]hit points[/I] with a class feature, he can't restore your lost arm. This is true... but it's also true for the Cleric, the Bard, etc. As such it's an utterly spurious reasoning to withhold hitpoint-healing from the Warlord (or the Warlord-style equivalent). They do later go on to say that people who want a 4e Warlord character should be able to do so... but months afterwards they clarified on twitter that you'd get it through the College of Valor Bard. Again, healing reserved for just the magic people because hands can't be shouted back on. And you only need to check the latest playtest package to see that this is true, Fighters have zero Warlord traits while Valorous Bards are the closest thing in the game. The podcast I linked above has a talk with Mike Mearls, Chris Dupuis, and Rodney Thompson. So yeah I kinda did hear it from people high up in the creative team. As I told Mercurius earlier, I have paid very close attention to the development of Next. It's starting to dawn on me that perhaps I'm in a minority position here. [/QUOTE]
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