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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6251731" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I am not indirectly ridiculing the attitude I'm highlighting here, I feel I am being pretty direct about it.</p><p></p><p>I am fine with legitimate criticism of 5e or any game. I engage in plenty of criticism of 5e myself (perhaps you missed my long rant about how I don't like the healing system much).</p><p></p><p>However sometimes people take very minor comments, or simply comments that are trying to explain what direction 5e is going or what things the creators think it does well, and then they go out of their way to take it as an insult against their preferred edition.</p><p></p><p>And I am calling out that bad behavior. And if you are defending that sort of bad behavior, I am calling out your defense as well.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I am ridiculing over the top victimhood where people pretend they're being slapped in the face because they like a different edition. I am ridiculing claims that a past edition is being slammed any time someone from WOTC mentions something they think is a feature of 5e without also mentioning that some prior edition did something similar, or if the prior edition did it differently.</p><p></p><p>It's enough already. Stop playing the victim. Nobody is slapping you in the face because of your preferences. Mearls is just talking about the new game. He's not slamming an older version of the game when he talks about the new game. Unless he mentions the prior edition, you should not read into his comments some implied slam. Criticism can be done concerning what he says, without pretending there is some hidden slam about something you like from a prior edition. </p><p></p><p>It's gotten to the point where a new article at WOTC will be posted, and someone here will re-post it and then post a running commentary slam on EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE of the article, often focusing on many individual words. They look for something nasty or snarky to say about it - and if nothing obvious comes to mind they just make up some strawman to tie it back to the snark theme. They take things out of context, imply a new context that wasn't present, pretend some implication about some past game that is obviously not being implied, and go to town in a stream of snark and nasty.</p><p></p><p>It's enough. That behavior detracts from enjoyment of the board, and from genuine discussion and criticism or praise of 5e. And I think it deserves to be called out and ridiculed when it starts happening this often.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6251731, member: 2525"] I am not indirectly ridiculing the attitude I'm highlighting here, I feel I am being pretty direct about it. I am fine with legitimate criticism of 5e or any game. I engage in plenty of criticism of 5e myself (perhaps you missed my long rant about how I don't like the healing system much). However sometimes people take very minor comments, or simply comments that are trying to explain what direction 5e is going or what things the creators think it does well, and then they go out of their way to take it as an insult against their preferred edition. And I am calling out that bad behavior. And if you are defending that sort of bad behavior, I am calling out your defense as well. Yes, I am ridiculing over the top victimhood where people pretend they're being slapped in the face because they like a different edition. I am ridiculing claims that a past edition is being slammed any time someone from WOTC mentions something they think is a feature of 5e without also mentioning that some prior edition did something similar, or if the prior edition did it differently. It's enough already. Stop playing the victim. Nobody is slapping you in the face because of your preferences. Mearls is just talking about the new game. He's not slamming an older version of the game when he talks about the new game. Unless he mentions the prior edition, you should not read into his comments some implied slam. Criticism can be done concerning what he says, without pretending there is some hidden slam about something you like from a prior edition. It's gotten to the point where a new article at WOTC will be posted, and someone here will re-post it and then post a running commentary slam on EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE of the article, often focusing on many individual words. They look for something nasty or snarky to say about it - and if nothing obvious comes to mind they just make up some strawman to tie it back to the snark theme. They take things out of context, imply a new context that wasn't present, pretend some implication about some past game that is obviously not being implied, and go to town in a stream of snark and nasty. It's enough. That behavior detracts from enjoyment of the board, and from genuine discussion and criticism or praise of 5e. And I think it deserves to be called out and ridiculed when it starts happening this often. [/QUOTE]
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