LA for a bullywug?

[BOZ]

hi i'm converting some old PCs, and one of them is a bullywug. they're in the Monsters of faerun book, but that book doesn't list the level adjustment. anyone know what that is, or can guess well enough?

 

[Gez]

WotCily (i.e., "hobgoblins are LA +1"), I would say +2 for their natural armor and excellent Con, as well as Swim speed.

Personally, I would reduce it to +1, for their massive penalties in all mental stats, their slow walking speed, and their inhability to be efficient clerics.

 

[BOZ]

well, oddly enough, this is for a bullywug rogue, so the mental stats aren't that big a deal (except where it would effect # of skills of course).

 

[Gez]

Wisdom affects Sense Motive (anti-feint), Listen & Spot, Int affects Search and Decipher Script, Cha affects Use Magic Device, Bluff (feint) and all social skills.

It's a big hit for a rogue, who is reduced to be a flanking warrior without all these perks.

 

[BOZ]

well, he is what he is. let me break it down:

as originally rolled, his stats would have been Str 14, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 12, Wis 13, Cha 13. he was created using the 2E Humanoids handbook, which gave him +1 Dex and -1 Int and Cha. i would swap those adjustments for the current 3E MoF adjustments, which would be +6 Con and -4 to Int Wis & Cha. ouch yeah, that would be a big hit, but dem's the breaks.

 

[BOZ]

ok, finally got to converting this PC. i decided not to monkey with the stats, and left them as he had it in 2E. think i should still go with LA +1 or +2?

 

[Piratecat]

I'll hop this over to Rules so you don't have to try and see through the frog of war in General Discussion. Anyways, this is probably where such a question should go; I'm fibbian if I toad you otherwise.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

I'll hop this over to Rules so you don't have to try and see through the frog of war in General Discussion. Anyways, this is probably where such a question should go; I'm fibbian if I toad you otherwise.

Ooooh, the pain... the pain... If I hear another pun I'm gonna croak...

 

[BOZ]

anyway.

does the LA sound better at +1 or +2?

 

[Camarath]

If it was my game I think I would let the Bullywug be a LA+1.