Laptops at the table - Do you use them?

Halivar said:
I no longer use books, paper, or writing utensils. I bring my laptop and dice. I was the first in our group to do so, and in one of my groups it spread to the other players.

Agreed. I was the first in my old group and since then all the players in the group are using them. Usually one laptop per couple.

As for some of the comments talking about laptops being a distraction, I have seen them used as distractions by the same people that found other things as distractions. One player who always either was away from the table or was reading a book at the table started using her laptop to work on other projects....her husband would tell her when and what she needed to roll when the time came. However it really was no different when she'd read or walk away from the table...The only time I, as the DM, had her total attention was when I was running a more Soap Opera game. Unfortunately her husband likes more crunch games.....can't please everyone...in other words some people will get bored at the gaming table...might as well give them a tool that they can do quietly and still be at the table.

One person mentioned the negatives of IMing at the gaming table. Like any tool Instant messengers are both good and bad. Private IMs to other gamers asking game related questions....private notes to the DM [much better than all the players seeing the piece of paper]..all good. IMs to people not at the gaming table...not so good....
 

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I use a laptop. I have a skills program that I use to secretly roll player's skills [for Spot, Listen, Etc.], Campaign Cartographer [and FR Atlas] for maps, use it to write about 75% of the adventure, use it for pictures [and sometimes sounds] to show the players, a dice roller when I want to be sneaky, a bazillion pdfs for reference, an NPC generator, an Inn generator, a Name generator, and a recorder to record the games.

Even though I would probably be lost without my laptop, I still keep a DM folder with various notes and assorted books by my side for reference.

Occasionally, some of my players will bring a laptop. It doesn't bother me. In fact, I get a little envious because their laptops are usually better than mine ;)
 

Harmon said:
For our GMs its easier to locate monsters and baddies- way easier.

Finding rules (spells, endcumbrance, etc) that we don't have memorized its way, way quicker then looking through the book.

I don't doubt that for some GMs, the laptop is useful. And they're welcome to them.

I've learned that, for my purposes, if I have to look up more than a couple things (no matter how quickly I can do the lookup), I have not done my prep as I'd like.

Few years back I built a table (8'x4')...

Building special tables and reconfiguring my router are what I'd call "heavyweight solutions" to the problem. Heavyweight solutions are for big problems.

If you are anti PC then you might have either not seen the usefulness of the computer or had a good experience in the past.

No. I simply don't have a problem that needs fixing.

All this stuff with how great computers are, and how much better things get after spending lots of time, money, and effort hinge on the idea that my games don't run well and smoothly without a computer. I don't feel significant pain from long lookup times. My game is not broken, so I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars and many hours to gain marginal improvements.
 

Umbran said:
<snip> No. I simply don't have a problem that needs fixing.

<snip> My game is not broken, so I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars and many hours to gain marginal improvements.

Ummm- okay, just for the record our game wasn't broken, the lap tops made it better. The table took everyone off the couch and off the floor and put them in an equal and comfortable spot.

Take care all, hope your next experience is greater then the last. :D
 

I have one player who uses his laptop for his character sheet. HIs sheet is the ony one I don't ave to look though smudges, marks, or tear to see if he correctly leveled his character. I'm thinking of bringing mine next time...
 

Thulcondar said:
Did I mention I still play AD&D 1st Ed?
Yes, but it's superfluous information really. The rest of your post could as easily have applied to a lot of other games, 3rd edition D&D definitely included.
 

I do

In on group 4 out of 6 players use laptops
In another 4 out of 5 players use a laptop
In another 2 out of 5 players use a laptop

every DM uses one.
 

I don't have a problem with DM's using one. In fact in one of my groups the DM's makes great use of his laptop not only for game mechanics and such but he also hooks it to his tv and stereo for music and to show pictures of NPC's and such. However as a player I wouldn't use one and as a DM wouldnt wan't my players using them cause they could contribute to metagaming.
 

Wombat said:
Laptops are great ... for WoW.

For p-n-p games, please pay attention to the game, not the screen. Laptops at the table tend to lead to people just generally surfing.

Or, perhaps, just a thought, if the DM's game was more interesting, players wouldn't be surfing the internet.

Not saying that's the case here, but, if player's are bored enough that they stop paying attention to the game, it might be time to brush up on DMing skills.
 

I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to say it and start a riot. :) Player boredom reveals itself just fine without laptops though. Bored players can find plenty of ways to amuse themselves like read OoG books or magazines, talk or text on their cells, start side conversations with other bored players, go out for a smoke, take extended bathroom breaks, and about a hundred other things that aren't related to the game. I've witnessed every one of these things at other games.

I'm lucky enough to not have to deal with these problems with my group. But my group considers me a pretty good storyteller. Considering I'm a full time professional magician in my "real job", I get lots of practice :) . DM'ing with a laptop keeps the game running much smoother and faster, which minimizes opportunities for distractions and boredom. Of course, I'm speaking in terms of the DM having a laptop. We've tossed around the idea of players also having laptops, but our biggest fear is that it would lessen the groups cohesiveness. It would almost seem to defeat the purpose of playing at the gaming table at all, since with laptops, everyone could just stay home and we could play over the internet. Right now, we've agreed on no laptops at the gaming table right now, but that's because only half of our group have laptops and it wouldn't be fair to those who don't have one. My players are interested in using Player Genie to keep their character sheets up to date and also be able to occasionally send me text messages that they don't want to share with the group. They would also then be able to send each other text messages if they wanted to plan an attack without the DM's knowledge for example. My only fear with everyone texting everyone is that verbal interaction would decrease too much and players might also be tempted to metagame through text messages. Our current gaming style has virtually no metagaming in the sense that we use the 6 second rule during combat for talking during combat (actually, we use a 12 second real time round also to declare actions, allowing another 6 seconds to say whatever they want in character during their turn. Before the 1st round, unless they are surprised, they get 30 seconds to organize a basic strategy and decide how to resolve the encounter). We also play diceless (using DM Genie's autoroll option) so the players are unaware of any secret rolls I'm making during the game like spot checks and REF saves. We also don't use specific damage totals during combat, but instead use a relative health system. All of the mechanics are handled on the laptop allowing us to focus on storytelling. I only have 1 habitual metagamer in the group and it's become kind of a running joke. He doesn't do it on purpose, he just gets so excited that he occasionally blurts things out. It almost always gets us laughing, especially when he catches himself in mid-metagame. :D

Regarding laptops, I think it's just important to remember that they are tools like the PHB and the DMG, not the game itself. Using a laptop for a character sheet shouldn't be seen as any better, worse or different than using a piece of paper. Using a digitally projected map isn't any better, worse or different than using a big piece of cardboard and legos.

I'm often surprised when some gamers seem to jeer at those who use laptops as being somehow inferior DM's who need all the help they can get. I find the "old school or no school" stance somewhat insulting, because I fail to see the correlation. I have 3 DM's in my group who have all agreed that I put 5 times the amount of preparation into my sessions as they do. I can only put this kind of effort into this kind of preparation witht the help of my laptop and great programs like DM Genie, Maptools, Battlegrounds and Dundjinni. A DM is only as good as the fun he generates for his group, not his choice of tools or gaming style.
 

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