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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alarian" data-source="post: 6061255" data-attributes="member: 24407">[MENTION=93444]shidaku[/MENTION] - Part of our problem is our group has(had) really gotten too big.  Up until about a month or so ago, we had 8 players + the GM. In the past few months we've lost a few players though, one to College and another to his work shift being changed to nights.  And another who's wife decided he wasn't allowed to play anymore (LOL!).  This has dropped the group to a much more manageable size.  With a group that size you are going to have a wide variety of player types.  From the hard core to the casual.As to healing classes, we have a Paladin, a Cleric and another player who's a hybrid class I'm uncertain about but both the Cleric and Hybrid have little in the way of offensive capabilities but seem to dish out either temporary hit points or a healing surge as a side benefit with just about every action they perform.As to if we are still playing 4th, I guess in the strict sense we're not.  But other than perhaps 1 player everyone is definitely still having more fun.  And I would say if you asked anyone in our group what edition are we playing, they would all say 4th.  I will say the most vocal player for the changes that were made (i.e. simplifying stuff) it would probably be a safe bet to say he hates 4th.  Most of the rest of us just want to play and if the GM is running 4th, that's what everyone will play.  I'll be honest and say it's not my favorite version of DnD, but I find I've enjoyed it more as time has passed then I did when it first came out (I would have called myself a hater when it first came out).</blockquote>

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