Leadership TWICE?
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LeifVignirsson
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I know on that level, we are now talkin about controlling hordes of people, like a king or a duke... something along those lines. Someone who is just so popular that the population is fighting each other to be under his banner. There is an "Improved leadership" in one of the books that will explain it a bit better, but that is the level of it if I remember correctly.
Honestly, if he is up to that point and is well loved within your campaign, I'd give it to him... And then make him regret it by twisting the screws of lordship tighter and tighter. Make it SOOOO unappealing that he will ahve wished that he never took it in the first place.
Honestly, if he is up to that point and is well loved within your campaign, I'd give it to him... And then make him regret it by twisting the screws of lordship tighter and tighter. Make it SOOOO unappealing that he will ahve wished that he never took it in the first place.
Delemental
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If his LEadership score is at 25+, then I assume he's fairly high level?
There are a couple of options you could look at. First, there's an "Epic LEadership" feat in the ELH that allows for more followers and higher level cohorts. I believe it has an extrapolated table for Leadership socres over 25. You could use that, or if you don't have that book just extend the existing table yourself.
I don't think that by the RAW taking Leadership again would benefit the player, as the feat isn't designated as one that stacks. Even if it did, all it would serve to do would be to improve your Leadership score, which is useless if he's already at a 25. Perhaps you could invent a new feat for him along the lines of:
Great Leader
General Feat
Prerequisite: Leadership, leadership score of 15+
Benefit: The character gains a number of additional followers equal to what they would normally receive with their current Leadership score minus 6. For example, a character with a Leadership score of 20 could attract an additional 15 1st level followers and 1 2nd level follower (as appropriate for a Leadership score of 14). The character may also gain a second cohort of a level appropriate to the modified Leadership score (in the example above, a second cohort of up to 10th level). This feat allows a character to exceed the normal maximum number of followers on the Leadership chart.
Special: You may take this feat more than once. The number of followers and cohorts gained stack.
There are a couple of options you could look at. First, there's an "Epic LEadership" feat in the ELH that allows for more followers and higher level cohorts. I believe it has an extrapolated table for Leadership socres over 25. You could use that, or if you don't have that book just extend the existing table yourself.
I don't think that by the RAW taking Leadership again would benefit the player, as the feat isn't designated as one that stacks. Even if it did, all it would serve to do would be to improve your Leadership score, which is useless if he's already at a 25. Perhaps you could invent a new feat for him along the lines of:
Great Leader
General Feat
Prerequisite: Leadership, leadership score of 15+
Benefit: The character gains a number of additional followers equal to what they would normally receive with their current Leadership score minus 6. For example, a character with a Leadership score of 20 could attract an additional 15 1st level followers and 1 2nd level follower (as appropriate for a Leadership score of 14). The character may also gain a second cohort of a level appropriate to the modified Leadership score (in the example above, a second cohort of up to 10th level). This feat allows a character to exceed the normal maximum number of followers on the Leadership chart.
Special: You may take this feat more than once. The number of followers and cohorts gained stack.
Plane Sailing
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Matafuego said:
I would say absolutely yes. Get another cohort and another bunch of followers. No problem with that at all, and it can give an excellent in game mechanism for in-character developemn
the Jester
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By the RAW he can't, but it's a very common (and I think good) house rule.
Another way to get tons of followers is for some of your followers to take Leadership as well.
Another way to get tons of followers is for some of your followers to take Leadership as well.
Garnfellow
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Dynasties and Demagogues has the Inspired Leadership feat. Prerequisities: Cha 13, Leadership. You gain +2 to your Leadership score and may have two cohorts.
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CyberSpyder
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Why on earth would you do this? Just to screw him over for no visible reason?LeifVignirsson said:
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